This site is not affiliated with AGCO Inc., Duluth GA., Allis-Chalmers Co., Milwaukee, WI., or any surviving or related corporate entity. All trademarks remain the property of their respective owners. All information presented herein should be considered the result of an un-moderated public forum with no responsibility for its accuracy or usability assumed by the users and sponsors of this site or any corporate entity.
The Forum Parts and Services Unofficial Allis Store Tractor Shows Serial Numbers History
Forum Home Forum Home > Other Topics > Pulling Forum
  New Posts New Posts
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login


45 crank and wc flat tops

 Post Reply Post Reply
Author
Message
CAL(KS) View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 18 Sep 2009
Location: Chapman, KS
Points: 3786
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CAL(KS) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: 45 crank and wc flat tops
    Posted: 09 Jun 2024 at 2:45pm
Working on my sons 37 wc concurrently with the UC project. It had a fresh overhaul and has very little runtime since. We are checking things over as I've found a few shortcuts were taken. I had a 45 crank laying around so figured we would slap it in with the 4 1/8 flat tops. Measuring at 2.382 ch. Will stay oem with cam and everything else. Need a new cam gear as I dont like the backlash.   Can we safely run 91 octane with this config? I dont know the deck height or rod length or could look into it. Going to run this for my boy, if he really wants to stick with we can build something bigger down the line. Thanks.
Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20

Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15
Back to Top
Sponsored Links


Back to Top
DrAllis View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access


Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Points: 20730
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DrAllis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Jun 2024 at 6:05pm
Get it running and run a good compression test on it and I'll tell you.
Back to Top
CAL(KS) View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 18 Sep 2009
Location: Chapman, KS
Points: 3786
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CAL(KS) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Jun 2024 at 7:07am
man i would prefer to know before putting it back together in case i need to take a little off the top of the pistons. Ouch this would be using stock wc camshaft.  does a guy assume higher dynamic compression with the oem cam vs performance grind because of less duration?  

edit.  did some math after talking to a friend.

12.656 deck height  and  7.5 rod with 2.382 comp height give a deck clearance of .524  and according to my friend.  thats 8.7 to 1 static.    so comparing to knowledge base stats on the 175 (minus power crater).   with 240 CI and roughly the same compression, it should yield a few more ponies over 175.  taller piston yielding 10 to 1 static can run on 91 octane and give a little more, says friend who ran that combo.  

sounds like either way a good combination for my son to get started without me going broke.  



Edited by CAL(KS) - 10 Jun 2024 at 7:51am
Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20

Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15
Back to Top
DrAllis View Drop Down
Orange Level Access
Orange Level Access


Joined: 12 Sep 2009
Points: 20730
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DrAllis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jun 2024 at 6:24am
You should be fine. Be sure to have your ignition timing set at LESS than 25 degrees BTDC, probably closer to 22-23 degrees, but the Dyno is the best adjustment. Flywheel is marked 30 degrees BTDC.
Back to Top
CAL(KS) View Drop Down
Orange Level
Orange Level


Joined: 18 Sep 2009
Location: Chapman, KS
Points: 3786
Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CAL(KS) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jun 2024 at 7:12am
thank you for the input.  will do
Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20

Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply
  Share Topic   

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Forum Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 11.10
Copyright ©2001-2017 Web Wiz Ltd.

This page was generated in 0.109 seconds.


Help Support the
Unofficial Allis Forum