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mlpankey 
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Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 8:20pm |
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what is the bore spacing and the width and length of the deck? thanks
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mlpankey
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Posted: 21 Sep 2011 at 3:25pm |
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bump 433 allis chalmers engine out of a combine?
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MACK
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Posted: 21 Sep 2011 at 8:39pm |
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1-2-3 sme as 301 and 3-4 will be same as 3-4 on 301. MACK
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Posted: 22 Sep 2011 at 4:52pm |
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MACK do you think it would fit in a wd? is they a series of it better than another. when looking for one to purchase
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Slade (TN)
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Posted: 22 Sep 2011 at 4:54pm |
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IG has one (433I), a shame, it used to be in TN!
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mlpankey
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Posted: 22 Sep 2011 at 5:20pm |
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anyone hot roding one you know of
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Posted: 22 Sep 2011 at 8:10pm |
we are getting ready to put one in a d15 for next season in a new a light hot class 4000 rpm max and one turbo and no speed limit 3500 lbs
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My pulling tractor! WD stands for, You have just been beaten by a Woman Driver!!!!!
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mlpankey
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Posted: 22 Sep 2011 at 8:47pm |
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i am a non speed limited non turbo guy but wondering about hilborn alcohol injection and some extra bore and stroke .thinking the 80 hp block may be stronger than the 226 block.
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Posted: 22 Sep 2011 at 9:01pm |
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Waaaaaay stronger than a G-226 block and has five main brgs to boot.
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MACK
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Posted: 22 Sep 2011 at 9:28pm |
I would think it would be hard to clean after at 3500 lb. The wd45 would better than a D15 for the transplant. D15 has tooo many weak places for that HP. Trans, pinion, and final drives.
The 45 has some weak places, but they can be taken care of much easier than a 15. Good luck and hope the best in your endivers.
If I can be of any help on the weak parts let me know. MACK
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Posted: 23 Sep 2011 at 9:26am |
MACK I need a set of d 19 gas rods flame hardened . Can you help with that after talking with you I think that's been my rod issues. The head on the 433 is a cross flow right? Does it have four individual intake ports? Mack and Dr.Allis how much hp do you think one of these engines can produce ? Mine if I build one will be normally aspirated alcohol injected with some extra stroke and bore if its do able. I am hoping I can use the injector holes for spark plugs. I really need one purchased to check it out further if anyone knows of one forsale
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Posted: 23 Sep 2011 at 10:17am |
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The 433 head is crossflow but has only 2 intake and 2 exhaust ports.
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Posted: 23 Sep 2011 at 10:35am |
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dang the luck is the head bolt pattern and engine deck about the size of a 4035 deere block?
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Posted: 23 Sep 2011 at 9:03pm |
I think I have 6 heat treated rods. They will be 35-40 rockwell hard.
Don.t know how hp you can get without a turbo and on alc, but I've seen them stock with only pump turned up and stock rpm make 115 on dino. MACK
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Posted: 24 Sep 2011 at 5:45am |
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You need to find an engine out of an H-4 crawler. It is the gas version of the 2200 series engine which later became the 433. I don't know anything about them except that they exist. I don't know of any other application for the gas version.
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Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed
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DrAllis
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Posted: 24 Sep 2011 at 8:10am |
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Dear Debbie 7562: Take Mack's advice...don't use a D15 chassis. I've seen them with teeth off of the ring&pinion with 46 hp....I can only imagine what a 433I engine would do to them tiny teeney weeney gears.
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Posted: 24 Sep 2011 at 10:18am |
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give me a call mack on those rods at your convienance 423-242-8596 verizion .
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Bill Deppe/AC Salvag
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Posted: 24 Sep 2011 at 1:05pm |
Have a 433 engine, less crank. Have everything else, block, head, turbo, inj pump etc
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Posted: 24 Sep 2011 at 2:02pm |
You need a model 7000 AC 344 engine, 4 7/16 bore X 5 9/16 stroke 4 cylinder diesel with a big 8 port head. It was used in the AC T-16 tractors.
Lots of these engines available as power units from gov liquidation auctions
Edited by Rod B - 24 Sep 2011 at 2:58pm
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Posted: 25 Sep 2011 at 9:25am |
whats the weight of this engine with the 8 port head
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Posted: 27 Sep 2011 at 12:48pm |
Bore spaceing on a 433 is the same as a 301 1 and 2 are togather, 3 and 4 togather and a large gap from cylinder 2 to 3 as Mack pointed out. The gas head flows real well from the 301 gas engines and will bolt on if cut off. The diesel head does not and is cast in a way that it is undesireable. By moveing cyl 2 and 3 togather and 1 and 4 out, one can get a 4.6 bore in these engines. Removeing the oil pump will allow for over a 5" stroke.
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Posted: 27 Sep 2011 at 12:53pm |
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The 344 is a heavy engine at 1200 pounds when we took it apart. The engine alone is about 600-700 pounds for the long block as a guess. All the accesories on it are quite heavy large cast timeing cover, flywheel and housing.
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Posted: 27 Sep 2011 at 5:43pm |
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Thanks Rod B good info.
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