4 Section Snap Coupler Rotary Hoe

I have a parts one

I recall, for those to work properly your ground speed had be near road gear. We had a 3 point mount on an IH 826, used high range 3rd gear TA forward, throttle near wide open. Would a WD-45 have enough power go fast enough?

I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.

That's how I remember it. Dad said to use road gear. Would have been nice if there had been a shield to protect the operator. With the 262 gas engine up front on the repowered WD I don't recall weights being used though he did have a bracket fabbed for suitcase weights.
Glad you outbid the craft lady. My accountant wants to do same with one in the weeds behind the barn. It is not an Allis at least

Nice save.

Back in the 60's, the IHC rotary hoe we had was pulled conventionally with the drawbar on our D17 Diesel. We made a SC carrier from some bridge planks to transport it over roads to other fields. The carrier with the RH weighed quite a lot and made the front end so light, we had to have one person stand on the front axle to keep it down when crossing a shallow creek.

(The SC lift arms of the D17 were "substantial" to say the least and up to the task )

To get around this problem, Dad and I made a Snap Coupler mount for the rotary hoe.

The SC lift for the rotary hoe had eight "arms" that were welded to a long steel tube from which the 4 gangs were suspended.

Another tube was welded at 90º on center and had a loop to engage the SC hook.

Links were attached to the main tube to connect with the SC arms. It worked great.

A neighbor wanted one for his IHC 706, so we made one for him. However, this time we decided to use only 4 arms, but still used chains to suspend the gangs

The D17 pulled the rotary hoe with ease in 3rd direct, but if the field sloped just enough, I could get it going in 4th under; then shift down to 3rd direct again without stopping before a turnaround...it just took a little practice to coordinate the transmission shift + the PD shift at the same time to avoid any clashing; it just easily slipped into gear.

Very nice sunny late spring days.

Edited by Gatz in NE - 26 Feb 2023 at 10:53am

I have a drag type and it sits on a Allis Implement trailer. I never could make it work and sounds like I need to jump up a gear or so. Have some organic growers really do a great job with them. They have the 3 PT and say they are tempermental but tilting them forward or back usually does the job. But the next day the same field may different....I could not even make dust....

Edited by orangereborn - 02 Mar 2023 at 5:36pm

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wjohn Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 19 Jan 2010 Location: KS Points: 2057	Post Options Post Reply Quote wjohn Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 4 Section Snap Coupler Rotary Hoe Posted: 25 Feb 2023 at 9:22pm
	I had to outbid a lady who wanted to do crafty things with all the wheels, but I managed to bring home a Snap Coupler rotary hoe today. A couple of the vertical supports are broken, and some of the wood bearing blocks need attention. It should make a good addition for early weed control after planting. I'll probably have to add some weight to the front of my WD or WD-45 to keep the front end on the ground when I pick it up?
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	I have a parts one

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	You ARE going to want some added weight!

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	I recall, for those to work properly your ground speed had be near road gear. We had a 3 point mount on an IH 826, used high range 3rd gear TA forward, throttle near wide open. Would a WD-45 have enough power go fast enough?
	I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science.

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	I’d love to see these in action!
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	That's how I remember it. Dad said to use road gear. Would have been nice if there had been a shield to protect the operator. With the 262 gas engine up front on the repowered WD I don't recall weights being used though he did have a bracket fabbed for suitcase weights. Glad you outbid the craft lady. My accountant wants to do same with one in the weeds behind the barn. It is not an Allis at least

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	they are even heavy on a d-17

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	Nice save.

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	Glad that it's going to a good home Darrel

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	Back in the 60's, the IHC rotary hoe we had was pulled conventionally with the drawbar on our D17 Diesel. We made a SC carrier from some bridge planks to transport it over roads to other fields. The carrier with the RH weighed quite a lot and made the front end so light, we had to have one person stand on the front axle to keep it down when crossing a shallow creek. (The SC lift arms of the D17 were "substantial" to say the least and up to the task ) To get around this problem, Dad and I made a Snap Coupler mount for the rotary hoe. The SC lift for the rotary hoe had eight "arms" that were welded to a long steel tube from which the 4 gangs were suspended. Another tube was welded at 90º on center and had a loop to engage the SC hook. Links were attached to the main tube to connect with the SC arms. It worked great. A neighbor wanted one for his IHC 706, so we made one for him. However, this time we decided to use only 4 arms, but still used chains to suspend the gangs The D17 pulled the rotary hoe with ease in 3rd direct, but if the field sloped just enough, I could get it going in 4th under; then shift down to 3rd direct again without stopping before a turnaround...it just took a little practice to coordinate the transmission shift + the PD shift at the same time to avoid any clashing; it just easily slipped into gear. Very nice sunny late spring days. Edited by Gatz in NE - 26 Feb 2023 at 10:53am

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	I have one just like it except it's hydraulic fold. I haven't gotten to use it yet, but I hope to get it out fro an Allis show this year. Mine came with a couple new woods block so I got some Poly material from MCMasterCarr to make new bearing block. Made some but never finished the project.

orangereborn Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: NW WI Points: 1451	Post Options Post Reply Quote orangereborn Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Mar 2023 at 5:35pm
	I have a drag type and it sits on a Allis Implement trailer. I never could make it work and sounds like I need to jump up a gear or so. Have some organic growers really do a great job with them. They have the 3 PT and say they are tempermental but tilting them forward or back usually does the job. But the next day the same field may different....I could not even make dust.... Edited by orangereborn - 02 Mar 2023 at 5:36pm

Clay Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Udall, Kansas Points: 9533	Post Options Post Reply Quote Clay Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Mar 2023 at 5:54pm
	You can make bearing blocks out of OAK or MAPLE. Either work well. Depending upon the diameter and length, it might be possible to use straw walker bearing blocks.