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4 bottom plow what model is it

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    Posted: 08 Dec 2019 at 10:34pm
saved this from going to the scrap a couple of weeks ago some one tell me about it 
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just a WAG, here, looks to me like a 54, or 64 series.  What size are the bottoms?
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Defiantly an early LaCrosse plow. Likely a #54. Good save !  

Edited by Calvin Schmidt - 09 Dec 2019 at 5:23am
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Older than a 50 series. Maybe a number #3 or #4  ?? it's on steel wheels too.
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Pretty cool. Four bottom and on steel. Don't see that around here.
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That's sweeeet
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Uncle Theo or Dennis A. ought to know.  Maybe they'll weigh in here soon.
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Looks like a # 3 to me
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three of the shears are missing but front and ends of the mold boards are not worn at all.      these have moldboards and hook up front tohold it on who hard is that hard ware and shears going to be to find
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Great save, years ago one sold on Ebay for $2400! I sold one for $1800 a couple years ago.
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Would have taken a BIG tractor in that time to pull it. Maybe that's why it's not worn out?
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Model "A" would have handled that easily.
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Yea I have pulled a 4 bottom with my A
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That is why they bring good money, guys with A's need a trip-lift plow to be authentic, and I believe this is the only 4 bottom that Allis made. I found mine sunken in the dirt at a farm west of Spokane, it was probably pulled by a crawler out here.
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I pulled 4-14's with my UC in 2nd. Good match.
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they are 16 " but i need to get three shears and the hardware my two bottom is 16 also but it had the trip lever un hooked and a hyd cylinder put on   my two bottom roll over  are 18"  .   will post more pictures     how do you get more than one pictures per post  ?
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What a find.  Thank you so much for saving it.  You know, we NEVER saw a four bottom Allis Chalmers plow in our area.In fact I do not remember seeing an A till Canadagua NY GOTO when I saw ButchOH's and a few others
Keep us informed of your progress
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where can i get shears and the bolts and little wheel that holds the shears on
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Just look for parts for a #2 plow. They are quite common, just not in the 4 and 5 bottom configuration.
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I have these NOS share hooks and hand nuts. I might have some used ones also. some of the hooks are different from others, do you know how long yours need to be? Do you know the number on the back of the share you need? 
 


Edited by PaulB - 14 Dec 2019 at 2:24pm
If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere
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Nice save!  I've been keeping an eye out for one of these to pull behind my 20-35.  You can find the one and two bottom versions all the time, but the three and four bottom versions are much more scarse.  
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wonder what number mouldboard those are,  they have very little curve to them Reminds me of some 361 bottom I had that didn`t turn the furrow completely over
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paulb thats exactly what i need  i will see what the number is on the shears and get some more photos,  it is really in good shape  i had drove by it with in five feet for twenty years and never knew it was there in the tall wheatgrass a nieghbor was doing some scraping  and wanted to know if iwanted aold case digger  so i went with him tohelp him load stuff at his farm he ask me if i wanted a plow i said no but i will help you load it then i saw what it was allso got some sections of a case rotory hoe and the nieghbor got the case digger and a new holland baler  (baler really needed to be scraped)
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Originally posted by daveingreenbay daveingreenbay wrote:

wonder what number mouldboard those are,  they have very little curve to them Reminds me of some 361 bottom I had that didn`t turn the furrow completely over
B just the ticket for todays "leave it trashy" farming
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This is a model #2 plow. Calvin suggested a #54. Allis did make a #54 trip plow but it was an orchard plow that had solid wheels and a different hitch.
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