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shameless dude 
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Posted: 19 Mar 2020 at 2:01am |
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looking at a 2012 dodge 3500 dually diesel to pull my 5th wheel camper. truck looks good, clean, 4 door, 4x4. but....the DEF system has been shut off or removed or something...anyway it's not there anymore. i'm sure that is Illegal if anyone gets caught driving it that way...whatcha all think? should I chance it? if I buy it like that, I prolly won't fix it back.
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 19 Mar 2020 at 5:39am |
I heard that some trucks with DEF, that when you run out of DEF, turn off engine, it will NOT start until DEF is added(add warmed up in Winter). I'd be real 'upset' if we hear that from you next Winter. It could happen that whoever antiDEFfed the truck didn't swap in a noDEF computer and after xx hrs of noDEF, shuts down the engine. Just as bad,you get stopped for an inspection(up here that truck needs one EVERY year !) ,guy see no DEF bottle orhoses or whatever( his computer sees noDEF condition..) truck will be taken off the road until fixed. Check out what the fines are, at the minimum tags pulled until certified fixed !
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Posted: 19 Mar 2020 at 5:49am |
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I think this depends on the laws of your state. Some states have auto inspections. Ohio does not and Ive heard of plenty of people with emission deletes, I always heard that it voids your warranty, but its a 2012 so what warranty. I didnt think a 2012 would have DEF but you could probably call your highway department and see what they say.
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Posted: 19 Mar 2020 at 6:13am |
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If the DEF system has been deleted, you may not be able to get it to pass the inspection need to get it registered in your name. In many places as long as the person that did the delete owns it, it's not an issue. The problem arises when you try to transfer the title.
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Posted: 19 Mar 2020 at 8:16am |
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You may want to look at some of the dodge web sites for that year. I know a couple of issues that were known was electrical and def related. I have an older 06 3500 with the 5.9 and love everything except it is geared a little low to run 70mph (@2500 rpm)down the highway. It has the 6spd and will make 24.5mpg empty. They are good trucks in my opinion.
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Posted: 19 Mar 2020 at 4:17pm |
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I’ve got a 2010 ram 2500 Cummins and all of my emissions stuff was stolen at some point after I bought it 😏. I’m in Nebraska with you shameless and I have never had issues with it being gone. Not to say that some day it won’t happen but at this time it’s worth the risk to me. The truck runs so much better and my fuel mileage is MUCH better without the crud. Before deleting and tuning my mileage was around 10-12 now running around town I’m at 15 and cruising hwy at 60 I can break over the 20 mark easily.
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Posted: 19 Mar 2020 at 5:12pm |
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We have a 2012 3500 single wheel that we bought new and it didn't have def on it.
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Posted: 19 Mar 2020 at 6:21pm |
As long as it blow up the motor,---I would run it ! ---all that govt. crap does is make another company rich at our expense! As far a Dodge with a cummins, They have thousands of them on the road with a lot of likes, so I wouldnt be afraid of it.
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Posted: 19 Mar 2020 at 6:22pm |
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The local diesel shop told us when we were having trouble they could remove the def as long as the truck never went to California. I've heard from different sources that Cali might be eliminating def because they've found the emission from the def are worse than having the soot.
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Posted: 19 Mar 2020 at 7:05pm |
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Unless its a cab and chassis, a 2012 shouldn't have def on it anyways. I sold my 2500 that was a 2012 last fall. It was a great truck for me.
Edited by ACFarmer - 19 Mar 2020 at 7:05pm
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Posted: 19 Mar 2020 at 7:25pm |
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2013 was the first year for Dodge and DEF.The technology later became standard on all 2013+ model year Ram pickups equipped with any version of the 6.7L Cummins turbodiesel. The SCR system requires the use of diesel exhaust fluid (DEF), a substance comprised primarily of urea and water.
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Posted: 20 Mar 2020 at 10:27pm |
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it's still an extra cost to run the vehicle.
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Posted: 20 Mar 2020 at 11:47pm |
Search ResultsWeb resultsSelective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) The technology later became standard on all 2013+ model year Ram pickups equipped with any version of the 6.7L Cummins turbodiesel. The SCR system requires the use of diesel exhaust fluid (DEF), a substance comprised primarily of urea and water.
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Posted: 21 Mar 2020 at 5:40am |
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A new Ram 2018 2500 pickup with Cummins Diesel was $10,000 more than the 6.4 Hemi. Does the Cummins tow better yes. Can I buy a lot of gasoline for $10,000 yes! At 100.000 miles most Diesel owners regardless of brand start paying large sums of cash to replace emission controls on their Diesel pickups that are off of warranty. Or they delete if they can in their state unless required yearly inspection. When I bought my 2018 Ram I couldn't see spending $10,000 more for the same pickup. And the 6.4 Hemi tows my Hay trailer with 14 round bales better than the 2002 GMC it replaced. If I was towing Interstate then yes I would have a Diesel especially in mountains.
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Posted: 21 Mar 2020 at 10:07am |
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the truck is a cab/chassis, I had them measure the frame from cab back, and my flatbed is to short, and I don't want to cut the frame down to fit it nor do I want the space between the cab and flatbed, and I don't want to buy an in-between tool box to put on it. i'm going to pass this one up. thanks for the responses! if I find another I like...i'll let ya'll know!
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