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    Posted: 04 Oct 2017 at 7:14pm
A recent post has me wondering,aside from the obvious HP differences, what,if any,are the difference's between the 200,210 and 220? Do any parts interchange? Is a XT 190 in the same family? Thanks
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A 200 is nothing like a 210 or 220.  Very little in common.  The 210 is basically a stripped down/cheapened up 220.
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Dseries,are you saying a 200 is more like a XT??
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A 200 is simply an updated 190XT. As stated, a 200 is completely different than a 210/220. The 220 was the replacement for a D21 and is related to it. The 210 came into play as a gap-filler. Allis had the 190XT, at around 90-95hp, and the 220 at 135hp. They needed something in the middle, so they just de-tuned the 220, put on a 190XT-like hood and grille, and possibly a few other differences, and made a 210.
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Originally posted by FREEDGUY FREEDGUY wrote:

Dseries,are you saying a 200 is more like a XT??


Yes.  Just some minor changes.
'49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080
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Thumbs Up I just wasn't sure about the chasis configuration and makes some sense now,thanks
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I still have to wonder about a large frame tractor with a front-end-loader on it. To me it seems like alot of wear and tear on the front end and power director
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210 and 220 don't have power director.
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The obvious is that the 200 is a 301 cubic inch small block, evolved from the 190XT and later replaced by the 7000.
 
The 210 and 220 are big block 426 cubic inch engines. Like said above, the 220 was AC's biggest tractor at that time and replaced the D-21. The 210 filled a hp. gap between the two. They were later replaced by the 7030 and 7050.
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Jordon, does the 210 &220 have any type of "Power shift"?
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No all gears
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I opoligize for my previous post about "power shift", I meant to inquire about "HI/LO" power director. I can't believe with 135 ponies there are only 4 forward gears/speeds (220)
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They have 8 speeds 4 in the transmission and a hi-low range like an IH. None of which are shift on the go.
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Thumbs Up Thanks for the clarification, not familiar with IH, but would that be similar to MULTI/POWER on a MF?
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No clue,never drove a massey with that. It's more like a hi-low range on a 4 wheel drive truck. You come to a complete stop to shift from range to range and gear to gear.
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Shocked OUCH !! That doesn't sound user friendly at all!
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No you have a choice of low 1st low 2nd low 3rd low 4th then high 1st high 2nd high 3rd high 4th high with no shift on the go at all pick one gear and drive , you have to remember these were bull work tractors.
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