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ctbowles58 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Jun 2011 Location: Clarksville, MO Points: 2249 |
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i have about 15 bags of DeKalb seed corn that's 2 years old, do you think it would still be ok to plant ? its been in the dry.
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CTuckerNWIL ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22824 |
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I planted some I had given to me for food plots for 5 years. The 4th year, I thought my 1890's JD planter messed up and skipped a few. Last year I finished out that seed in my "new" planter, no tilling into standing beans. Only about half of it grew.
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Orange Glow ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 14 Feb 2018 Location: USA Points: 168 |
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Most of it will grow, if it was stored properly. We did a test plot with some of our new brand of corn (Becks) and some of the older Mycogen that was left from a couple years before. It yielded competitively, so it really didn’t bother it much to be older. We usually buy several pounds extra of sweet corn seed and put it in the freezer for years to come.
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HD6GTOM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Location: MADISON CO IA Points: 6627 |
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Plant it.
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ctbowles58 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Jun 2011 Location: Clarksville, MO Points: 2249 |
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Leesok ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: OK Points: 516 |
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Do a germ check. Get the wife's cake pan, put a inch of dirt or potting soil in it and plant 100 seeds. Keep in an area that will stay above 70* then count how many come up. Better yet plant some in her house plants, she'll keep em watered for you.
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shameless dude ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13607 |
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yep...what Tom and Lee says!
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SteveMaskey(MO) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Wellsville, MO Points: 606 |
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It doesn’t matter that you kept in the dry. Some times it will germ and sometimes not. I just threw away 3 bags that was that old only a few grains per sample would germ. Do as Lee says
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truckerfarmer ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 2013 Location: Watertown, SD Points: 3232 |
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Seed company I worked for back in the 90's would do germination tests on small grains. Lay out a couple paper towels. Place a row of seeds across center of towels, fold towels in half over seeds. Get towels wet and let sit a few days. You can open towels up to check on progress of germination.
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Stan IL&TN ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Elvis Land Points: 6730 |
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I also do the paper towel test and use the wife's cookie sheet. She used to scream more when I used dirt.
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11964 |
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Only way to know is to do the germination test. 15 bags....so we're talking a "farming operation" not just food plots or whatever. You could up the rate some if the germ test shows lower germination.
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john(MI) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: SE MI Points: 9262 |
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From what I've heard on the price of seed now, by the seed not pound anymore, I would definitely test it and/or plant it.
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Dipstick In ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Remington, In. Points: 8602 |
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Most of you would be shocked at the TRUE age of the seed you plant!
ALL COMPANIES do germ tests, submit the results to the various states,,,,,,,,,, and that resulting date becomes the date on the end of the bag. But heck,,,,,,,, if it germs out at 96-7%,, what does it matter? Less than 90% usually become salvage corn and is burnt in power plants,,,,,,,,,,, or roasted, and the coating burnt off to feed to hogs. (This depends on the seed coat of course!) Of course placing seed in a "salvage" class is resisted a lot! Soybeans are a different breed of pups because they don't retain the germination factor like corn!
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Dipstick In ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Remington, In. Points: 8602 |
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And yes, John,,,,,,,,, corn seed has been sold by the 80,000 kernel unit for several years now,,,,,,,,,,,, not by the pound weight. If you check your bags,,,,, I'd bet it describes the unit as 80,ooo seeds, with a bag weight of ####.# pounds.(I've seen this vary between 37 and 48 pounds a lot.........................
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Wayne180d ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 08 Dec 2015 Location: Gilman, Il Points: 5940 |
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I farmed two very pieces of land and always used some old seed to fill out the planter instead of buying another bag. Could never tell the difference always yielded good
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shameless dude ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13607 |
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mix it in with your new seed, it'll cross pollinate with the other plants. I've put last of a bag seed in with new seed before, never hurt my yield any!
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jaybmiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 24334 |
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OK...
corn seed has been sold by the 80,000 kernel unit WHO counts them when they buy them !! |
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Orange Glow ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 14 Feb 2018 Location: USA Points: 168 |
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There was a couple people who actually did count a bag of corn! According to our seed person, it took them all night, and it was right about 80,000.
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11964 |
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Been sold that way for decades I'd say.
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11964 |
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How old? The year prior.....? Me too. 2 years? How old was it to begin with (as dipstick points out)? Point is, a germination test is super easy to do, extremely inexpensive in the scheme of growing corn, and the only way you will really know. A screw up in poor germination could easily cost $1000's on the scale this guy is asking about.
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