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exSW
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Topic: 1977 Allis Chalmer 7020 Belly ColorPosted: 24 Oct 2018 at 6:20pm |
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I don't know much about AC's but I spent a lot of time in West TN in the early to mid '80's. Think he might have had a test mule that escaped? Dewey Lynn had all kinds of stuff.
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1970sFarmer
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Posted: 24 Oct 2018 at 8:18am |
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We be ole friends, right. Dirt in our fingernails, red on our necks, but skin cancer.
Why not? One global community as long as it stays within the county lines. lol.....
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Posted: 24 Oct 2018 at 8:15am |
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Only shows, guys, that I have non-chew gum and walk at the same time, kinda of mind.
I may be in the blue shadows, but I never sail in amongst the twilight zone.
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allisrutledge
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Posted: 24 Oct 2018 at 7:58am |
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Twilight zone- full moon?
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Allis Chalmers still exist in my mind and barns
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Tbone95
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Posted: 24 Oct 2018 at 7:35am |
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This is one of the more bizarre conversations I've ever seen.
2 years and 4 months go by, someone joins the forum to specifically post about a murder mystery in Buford Pusser territory on a question about a tractor model from a confusing old memory. Then the OP comes on answering questions from before like no time went by at all. Wow, only on the internet!
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1970sFarmer
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Posted: 24 Oct 2018 at 7:01am |
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First tractor we had, was a Deutz 10006, apprx 100 pto.
I would pull the disc we had 3 to 5 miles an hours easily, unless the soil was little to sandy, or wet, then we ran into a traction problem, running singles, with worn tire lugs. The A/C just kinda loped with the disc, didn't even slow down when cutting to disc axle depth, approx 12" deep. the "PICO" brand disc had largest disc I had ever saw beside the ones pulled behind dozers on virgin ground. You know the rough terrain style, offset disc.
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Posted: 24 Oct 2018 at 6:55am |
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Open station or "ROPS"
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Posted: 24 Oct 2018 at 6:53am |
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That's what we called a hipper,
Someone's explanation about creating a flat top on the furrow is correct, kinda a trapezoidal ridge.
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Posted: 24 Oct 2018 at 6:52am |
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Appreciate it. I am gonna say it was a 7040 with wrong emblems.
lol. Until I can find papers, which we will soon be going through, Dad died Feb 2017, and it is getting close for Mom to go through the disposal phase, I will agree there is something fishy about the fertilizer.
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Posted: 24 Oct 2018 at 6:50am |
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Then I must have sat upon a tractor that was re-skinned. I remember 7020, because it never felt like it rolled off the tongue like JD'S 4020, IH 1486, or MF 1105...
It could've been a 7040, it was a strong running beast. I remember the high/low on the right leg side console succinctly because of one of Dad"s pissed off kick the cat days, he was mad at me for running in the wrong range. He stopped me ran up and jumped and grabbed the lever and yanked forward into high range. |
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Well, wow, sorry if I hit a nerve . Billy was a long time friend. Took several trips together, sold him parts after he went out of the AC business when no one else would. Some of his stories are almost legendary as told by his customers who from time to time visit and still tell us tales of Billy's endeavors. I 'called' on Billy as a AC rep. If you are a relative I meant no ill will , just relaying the legend how tough that ole Billy was. So sad others in his family fell victim to so much violence as well...but....
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When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money..
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Posted: 23 Oct 2018 at 3:52pm |
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Seems that way doesn’t it? It happened about 20 years ago if my math is correct. My point is, if you don’t know what happened, you shouldn’t speculate over what the locals said and post what you think happened.
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Posted: 23 Oct 2018 at 1:43pm |
![]() You joined to make a comment on a thread over 2 years old? Must feel pretty strongly. I'm guessing your comment is regarding tbran's story? Which happened ~40 years ago??? I think it's ok to post what you heard at this point. What else is there?
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Posted: 23 Oct 2018 at 10:39am |
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This was a robbery turned murder by two dope heads. The woman used to work for him at the dealership. Don't post "what you heard".
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Posted: 20 Jul 2016 at 6:39am |
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8000 series had build dates in December 1981 I believe. They are considered 1982 models I suppose. I always go by the build date myself to determine year of tractor.
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Posted: 20 Jul 2016 at 5:52am |
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I have my mom and sister looking, or hope to..my dad needs mom's help alot. I know I have 8mm movies of our Deutz and Massey, I hope to have at least a photo of the 7020...
Guys, I really appreciate all the responses to this conun
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A couple of my observations. I consider all 7030 & 7050 to be 1973 or 1974. Only 1973 models had the black face cab. These tractors had a plastic roof with the flashers in them. I call the first year 7040-7060-7080s 1975 models. They still used the plastic roof. 1976 was the first metal roof. I think that 1976 was also the first power shift.1977 models had a different dash, rectangular, electronic idiot lights instead of the six individual round lights. They had a much larger power shift filter also. 1978 was the first black belly. 7020-7045-7060-7080. They had the accousta cab 2,larger steps, but still used a steel fuel tank. The gear shift lever was moved to the side in 1978 on the power directors. 1979s went to a plastic fuel tank. 1981s used the Bosch injectors. The straight 7000 were 1976 & 1977 maroon belly with a dry clutch. 1978 7000 was black belly and used the first speed of the power director as an inching clutch. The last year of the 7000,those tractors used a larger muffler, like the larger framed tractors. The earlier ones just used a round muffler like a 200. The 7010 took the place of the 7000 in 1980 as I recall. I consider 1982 to be the first year of the 8000s. These are just for my reference. Actual dates when the models were introduced may be different from what I perceive them to be. Many other improvements and updates were added thru the years and did not necessarily correspond to any specific years model.
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Posted: 19 Jul 2016 at 7:12pm |
Ddddddddamn right! |
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Posted: 19 Jul 2016 at 5:20pm |
7030/7050 = January 1973 thru sometime in 1974, 7040/7060/7080 maroon belly = 1974 thru 77 7000 maroon = 1975 thru 1978 7020/7045/7060/7080 black belly = 1977-81 7000 black belly 1978 thru 1979 7010 black belly = 1979 thru 81 At least that is what I think is right.
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Posted: 19 Jul 2016 at 3:56pm |
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Whew. Glad you guys got the dust settled. Sure stirred up my allergies. LOL
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Posted: 19 Jul 2016 at 3:29pm |
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They made it as confusion as hades in winter...
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Posted: 19 Jul 2016 at 3:14pm |
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sequence wise you are correct but they were not all released at the same time and some models were replaced by others
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Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20
Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15 |
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Posted: 19 Jul 2016 at 3:11pm |
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Not saying it happened, but when did Allis introduce 7030 and the 7020, because I wonder if we got a re-sklinned 7030 to 7020 and not a 7020...Was the 7030 maroon bellied?
Also, why did Allis introduce the 7000 series like they did... I always thought the sequence was 7000,7010,7020,7030,7040,7050,7060,7080... but I gleaned that the sequence was more(1973-1974) 7030-7050,(1975-1979)7000-7040,,('74-1981)7060,(1978-1981)7020 -7045-7080. Could someone explain.
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Posted: 19 Jul 2016 at 2:52pm |
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Which side the engine oil filters were on??
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Posted: 19 Jul 2016 at 2:48pm |
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I don't think so, although interested in tractors, I didn't know much about them...
like, intercoolers, I knew what a turbo was, but which side a starter was on....don't think so.
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Posted: 19 Jul 2016 at 2:35pm |
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I wonder if he would remember what side of the tractor the starter was on.
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Posted: 19 Jul 2016 at 7:42am |
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Now you are just gonna have to try and find pics. And as I said before, we all love pics.
I think all non-cab, ROPS models, be it maroon belly or black, had a fiberglass top with the flasher lights in the top. All cabbed 7030 and 7050 had the fiber glass top. I think all later cabbed models had a metal top. Unsure about the very early 7040, 7060, 7080 as far as cab tops go. There is a 7040 on tractor house with the flashers in the cab top on front. I think I have sales brochures showing some 7040/7060 models with flashers in cab top but parts book only shows metal top parts number for cabbed models. All ROPS non-cab show part number for fiber glass top. |
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7030 maybe? Do you remember if the engine had an intercooler on it and if filled the engine compartment when looking at it with the side panels on? The 7020 has a 301 with an intercooler and you can see daylight over the top of the engine where as a 7030 or larger was a 426 cu. and you couldn't see over that engine. How about the idiot lights on the dash....6 small round lights or a plastic 2 by 3 piece cluster?
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Posted: 18 Jul 2016 at 9:12pm |
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You got me.
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Posted: 18 Jul 2016 at 8:46pm |
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Fiber glass
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