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1941 B project... PICTURES added finally!

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I suppose it sorta is, save for the fact that it started life as a tractor originally. Lots of car & bicycle parts incorporated into the build though, "depression-era" style cobbling aplenty. 

Still plan on doing a full walk around video of the thing once it's down off the trailer and in a semi-usable state but the least I owe all you guys for the help thus far is a few photos.
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OK I've only gone & done it again, weather not been great so not got the photos just yet but have made further progress & she's just about ready to drive off the trailer. Steering gear is mounted enough to where it'll work for the speeds we're doing & finally wrestled the last front tire onto the rim. 
I've been putting this off/procrastinating for a while as I know from the other side that it's going to be a bear (tires are 235/75 15 car ones so way too wide & this last one is a winter one with some real meat to the thing).  As incorrect tires go, it went pretty well in the end. Was a real PITA to mount the second bead as I expected but once on it pushed itself against the rim such that it's sealed well enough to stay tubeless for the moment which was a worry I'd had considering the wheels were intended for tube only. So that's 3 out of 4 aired up and happy.

Still can't make the rear tube hold air, poured a couple of different concoctions in it but may have to bite the bullet and patch the thing & just hope the tire holds together after re-refitting!

Either way, she's gonna touch down soon. Will definitely make sure that's caught on video for posterity.


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Hopefully some photos of the hackery & tractor as it now sits. Smile

DAMMIT site limit 2.0MB? I could'a sworn it was 3...

Just spent a while resizing stuff down to 3.0 but not sure if I can get them any smaller, more I shrink the image the size is going back up!
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Trying again lol I prefer welding and waylaying on stuff with hammers much more than computers! EDIT- Wahey we have pics at last! That was harder than it shoulda been!


First up is the abortion that is the "spline" end of the drop arm (well, the bicycle seat clamp & 3 point link that identify as the drop arm!)





Then the steering gear bracketry & drop arm rig up as a whole...



The rusty old girl as she sits, could drive off the trailer at this point but think I'll probably at least sort out an alternator and fan before that just so she doesn't heat up too much.



The marriage between 1940's Fordson & 1990's Citroen steering column...


Kinda the view from the driving seat, didn't fancy a wet azz so I'm off to the side a bit!





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Will the English ministry of recycled steering wheels allow you to use it without an airbag?Wink
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Wouldn't surprise me if there is a Govt. agency for such. Not that any of our 30+ year old airbags would be likely to work anyway (We die like men, even the women...)

Hellacious wind last night and most of today, fence panels & wheelie bins flying past the window and all so not likely to do much on the old girl today. At least my old oil jug has stayed on the exhaust so far.
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i use a nail to start her cause i lost the key
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Don't British tractors have to be registered?  Most I've ever seen have number plate or equivalent on them.  Do they have to pass an MOT inspection to be registered?  Just curious!




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Originally posted by Alberta Phil Alberta Phil wrote:

Don't British tractors have to be registered?  Most I've ever seen have number plate or equivalent on them.  Do they have to pass an MOT inspection to be registered?  Just curious!



Not to cast aspersions on Dan's mechanical talents (clearly he are!), but I think he has to go through the MOSW to register that one!Wink





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Originally posted by Alberta Phil Alberta Phil wrote:

Don't British tractors have to be registered?  Most I've ever seen have number plate or equivalent on them.  Do they have to pass an MOT inspection to be registered?  Just curious!



She came with a V5 (title) & her plate which she will proudly wear again one day is CKG 281 Smile  No MoT for agricultural tractors thankfully, and even if there were this would be exempted by being over 40 years old (there's a good one for you, car lasts someone 40 years and they no longer have to pass an MoT every year because it's obviously going to be just dandy condition from that point forward right? At least the tax is free then as well though...)

The only silly walks here are adequately provided for by government shaftings of taxation on damn near everything, they don't call the national TV station the BBC for nothing Wink 


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Dan.... is your nick name McGyver ?   Wink
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Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

Dan.... is your nick name McGyver ?   Wink

Close Steve, but not quite close enough to be able to keep air in the rear tire with chewing gum and a paper clip. Seems I'm gonna have to go "old skool" and actually use a patch on the tube Dead

Ah well, can't complain if that's the only thing I have to do up "right" I suppose. Speaking of which I need to buy a new pack of feeler gauges still from when I butchered those to shim the big ends at the start of this project!
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She's on the ground at last, from looking at things I'd say it's at least 40 years since this tractor was "complete" and driveable.  Clutch release mechanism could be smoother but if it doesn't get better with time I've no problem splitting the tractor again to double-check the lubrication as the clutch could use a bit less free play anyhow.

Finally bit the bullet and pulled the rear tube to patch it earlier, had pinched it on install as I thought & with that sorted I just couldn't help myself but to drive her off the trailer. The smoke is mostly oil burning off the stack from the oil can I used as a cover, otherwise though she runs pretty clean. She deserves some more love now I think, may be tempted to remove the finals/trumpets to clean out and sort out the rotted off brake bands since the friction material appears to still be OK just stuck inside the housing.  

Really need to sort that left rear wheel too, look at that bead of the rim just flapping in the breeze as I parked her up!!! Considering this is the worst wheel on the thing I'm not quite sure how it's the only one that held air when I bought the machine Confused


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OK just noted a "development" in the rear wheel issue... I did notice on parking up that the rear tire looked a bit odd but put it down to low pressure (I didn't dare put more than about 7psi in due to the rust).

On looking over the tractor this morning it's a little bit more than that... The entire inner lip/bead portion of the rim has disintegrated and crumbled to nothing when I moved the tractor & the tire has simply swelled outward by about 4". Tube still holds air to it's credit, just chucked a stand under the drawbar & taken the valve out now to take strain off it.

I knew I needed to do some work on this rim, not quite that much though! Honestly, considering how good she's been to me I might even consider springing for a replacement if I can find one cheap enough.
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I dont see a closeup of the rim, but assume you have the 4 WEDGE clamps to hold the rim to the cat hub.... Keep and eye out for ANY 24 inch rim...anything can be MODIFIED.. but there are some 4 LOOP rims that will directly interchange..
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Thanks Steve, I'm not 100% sure myself but I think they are 4 wedge mounting yes. Will grab a photo when I can, it's impressively rotten!
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You probably have dished Rear Wheels like a Model 'C' to go with your Optional Adjustable WFE.

If the Rear Rim is that badly rusted, be careful it doesn't just fall off when you move the Tractor.

I had one rear literally fall off the wheel while sitting along the fence line.

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Honestly not sure what type, only that they're not the original 1941 wheels since they are stud mounted on spline adaptors. Hopefully the actual band of the rim isn't as far gone as the lip, it's not like they were fluid filled & I think it's just kind of rotted from effluent/moisture trapped against the bead of the tire long term.

Will get photos anyway as it's quite impressive to me that the tube still held air on this one (maybe being flat & off the bead is what saved the other side come to think of it, that only has one bad spot where it sat on the ground). Having had a quick look round at prices/availability of used rims locally I think I'll be repairing the rotten one anyway. Nothing for less than £100 even just as a bare rim Vs. maybe £25 in material (it'll probably get something like 1 1/2" x 1/8" thick angle iron, pie cut and formed using the good rim as a pattern & maybe some patches if the band is too thin. Good thing I have no objections at all to using my new cheapie inverter welder, it's great!) 

Either way I'll likely break the wheel down and make sure it's structurally sound, at the very least give it a good going over with the "finding rot" hammer with the tire off as I don't much fancy 2000Lb of iron deciding to roll over and play dead on top of me!

Cheers, Dan.


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