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    Posted: 31 May 2020 at 9:49am
My new to me 190XT brakes are not the best, left/right the same.  With a slight downhill frontwards/backwards, standing on the brakes, it will still roll.  Not a full roll, they slow it down but will not hold it.  Where are they located and how easy is it to replace them?
1955 WD45 S#205467, 190XT #6652 DXT
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Left is the easiest. Located under seat left and right. My guess is oil on them. Pull check plugs on final drives. If they are over full, you have another problem that needs fixed before brake job.        MACK
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My experience with them is first- remove the outer covers and blow the dust and dirt out of the mechanisums, then an adjustment  
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Originally posted by MACK MACK wrote:

Left is the easiest. Located under seat left and right. My guess is oil on them. Pull check plugs on final drives. If they are over full, you have another problem that needs fixed before brake job.        MACK


Can this be done with the cab on?  Tractor is 1.5 hours away at the moment so I can't run out and check. 
Final drives, is the plug on the inside, or does the tires/rims need to come off to access them?
Can't wait to get her home for a good bath and minor leaks fixed.

Thanks!
1955 WD45 S#205467, 190XT #6652 DXT
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They are accessible with the cab on. Might be easiest to adjust the wheels out, but you don't have to.  I got mine from Rick and they hold great.
Charlie

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Old thread, same questions.  Got her home and pretty much parked her, had my hands pretty full all summer til recently where I have been addressing other problems, most fixed or being worked on.  I'm used to brake access through a cover on top in the W series, is this the same type/location for 190XTD brakes?  She has a Stoepler cab and for the life of me I can't find a way to access through the cab floor.  The only floor panel on left side is for 2 batteries, don't see an access cover or way to get to one from there.  I see what is a round access panel(?) above the final drives (bull gear) on tire side?  Do I need to go in from there to access the brakes to clean?

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Brake housings are accessed from under the platform not through it.  Follow the pedal linkage and you will find this:
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Front the front of the rear tires, look back at the axle. Follow the axle to the main housing, you will see the cover as shown in Item 2 above
Charlie

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So I was guessing right, through the round panel above the gear.  I'm not a small guy and have arty-ritis so my best bet is to remove the wheel for free/clear access to the brakes through that panel.  This tractor does not have spin-out rims/hubs so off it comes.  Easily.... I hope... LOL

Thank-you.
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NDBirdman,  I need to fix my brakes as well and you have the same cab, so please document in detail what you end up doing and repost if you can.  I do have spinout rims and removing tires has been done recently so tires should come off easily for me to get easier access.  I have other issues to deal with so will not be tackling this for awhile.
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It is easy, far easier than previous Allis designs I think!
Charlie

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With your tires all the way set in, you will be working blind with your hands above  your head, easier for a young skinny guy with long arms. It also helps if you have done one already so you know whats in there that you can't see. On tractors with year-round cabs the bracket that mounts to the axle can cause interference but if you loosen some bolts you can deal with it, not sure how the mounts are for your cab.
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Just looked under there.... will be tight I think but doable.  I don't see any need to remove the wheels, cover is not at end of axle like I thought.   I hope I can get to them end of the week, hopefully.  Fingers crossed, clean out and hit with brake clean.... all finders crossed..... LOL  First job on her this week will be removing one hyd and one fuel line, *possibly starter solenoid to put in block heater.  Well, first job next couple days... bow hunting in this 20 degree daytime weather...... brrrrr



Edited by NDBirdman - 26 Oct 2020 at 4:11pm
1955 WD45 S#205467, 190XT #6652 DXT
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