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randy
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Topic: 180 grill color?Posted: 18 Jan 2026 at 9:03am |
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Painting my 180 and was wondering what color the grill insert should be? have seen white on some and some orange. Serial number 12162. Cloud white for front rims and rear wheel centers?
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DrAllis
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Posted: 18 Jan 2026 at 9:30am |
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Creme on those parts. Not cloud white or new white. As far as the grille screen goes, I think creme. BUT, the 185 came out in late 1970 and had the new color scheme of an orange grille screen with black background hood decals. Your s/n is newer than 1970. I still think creme is correct, especially if the hood decals are creme background. Can't you tell what color the grille screen was painted originally ??
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Posted: 18 Jan 2026 at 9:39am |
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My old 180 appears OEM paint, and grill Grating area is same color as rest of Grill panel.
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Posted: 18 Jan 2026 at 9:51am |
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And, I suppose there's a chance the grille shell and screen were painted orange first and then the screen got masked and sprayed creme. Any 180 screen was creme until possibly very late after 1971 or so near the end of their production.
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Posted: 18 Jan 2026 at 11:21am |
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Looks like the grill screen was and still is orange. The hood decal was cream with black letters. Thanks for the info. Randy
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Posted: 18 Jan 2026 at 11:25am |
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Would that serial number make it a 1972 model?
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Posted: 18 Jan 2026 at 11:57am |
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Posted: 18 Jan 2026 at 12:21pm |
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Thanks. Randy
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Posted: 18 Jan 2026 at 3:50pm |
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Is the grill the flat front, shallow screen style like a 185? Those were all orange as far as I know, but many times us old farts remember wrong lmao! To me, all 180's would have cream decals and cream grill mesh with the older deep 190 grill shell. Could be like the 210 though, after 72, they got the shallow flat front grill shell with orange mesh. Never personally seen a 73 190D, but curious what style grill shell those had.
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Joe Goodwill
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Posted: 18 Jan 2026 at 4:30pm |
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I just checked a picture of our 1969 180 Diesel, the recessed grill and decal background are crèam. Front and rear wheel centers also cream.
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Posted: 18 Jan 2026 at 5:36pm |
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I have advertising literature for and have actually seen very late model 170's that had the decals and grille screen just like the 175 did. The (older) One-Seventy's were always cream decals and grille screen. I've never seen a late 180 with matching color 185 decals and grille screen. I'm not saying they may not have made some, but I've never seen one. As far as I'm concerned all (older) One-Eighty's were cream decals and grille screens, but I could be wrong.
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Posted: 21 hours 53 minutes ago at 9:19am |
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I think, as an afterthought, all the very latest 185's just had just one color, orange -To save $ - the black radiator and air filter kind of made it look black...
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Posted: 21 hours 20 minutes ago at 9:52am |
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Dad's 1968 180 had cream screen and his 1974 185 was all orange. Both tractors were bought new.
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Posted: 21 hours 11 minutes ago at 10:01am |
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All 175/185's always had an orange grille screen. That's not the question. What we're trying to determine is, at a certain point when One-Eighty's and 185's were being built simultaneously, did the One-Eighty ever lose the creme colored grille screen and go to an orange screen like the 185's always were ?? I think so. But, the hood decals never went to the black background and said "180" instead of One-Eighty, which the last of the 170's actually did.
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Posted: 20 hours 53 minutes ago at 10:19am |
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I think in 1972 with the introduction of the 200 the grills changed to the square style outside on the One-Eighty, 185, and Two-Ten's for sure to match the design of the 200. My Dad's Two-Ten was new in 1972 and had an orange screen...the One-Eighty followed that trend also. I have a One-Eighty brochure at home that has a good picture from the front.
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Posted: 20 hours 32 minutes ago at 10:40am |
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Does anyone know if a 70 & 71 185 has the shallow mesh and flat front? I know the mesh was orange with black decals, and black & silver AC logo in grill. I always figured the shallow mesh grill came out when the 200 came out, as they used that style, but had the added pleated screen only on the 200. The base grill became the superseded or replacement part for all the others. I've seen several 72 210's in original clothes and all had the flat front/shallow screen, yet agco parts books only shows 1 part number for the grill. Only an old parts book may show some preceded part numbers. I'm with Dr, the 170 did get the black stripe/dash/orange mesh face lift like a 175, but the 180 wasn't built long enough to get the face lift, it was never restyled. Guessing the 170 style change was about when the 180 was being phased out in 73. As said earlier, I'd like to see some original pics of a 73 190D also, to see what those had.
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Posted: 20 hours 30 minutes ago at 10:42am |
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I think those early (1970-71) 185's had the old grille shell deep screen/rounded front edge design, yes. And the intro of the 200 in 1972 would be a good reason why the grille stamping got changed on all of them.
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Posted: 12 hours 44 minutes ago at 6:28pm |
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I checked my grill today. It was painter orange from the factory, so orange with the cream decal on it. Thanks again for all the info! Now i just have to get it ready for the GOTO at Penfield this summer.
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Posted: 8 hours 53 minutes ago at 10:19pm |
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What's the printing date on that One-Eighty book ?? I've never seen that literature book before. Only 2 headlites.
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