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Eldon (WA) 
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 Topic: What's wrong with this picture?
Posted: 12 Mar 2011 at 9:03pm |
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Posted: 12 Mar 2011 at 9:04pm |
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Matt MN
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Posted: 12 Mar 2011 at 9:14pm |
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Missing side panel?
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Unless your are the lead horse the scenery never changes!!
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Coke-in-MN
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Posted: 12 Mar 2011 at 9:25pm |
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No snow on the ground ?
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Joe(IA)
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Posted: 12 Mar 2011 at 9:35pm |
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Da cylinder upside down
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Eldon (WA)
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Posted: 12 Mar 2011 at 9:41pm |
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Well you might all be right.....but I was wrong. I was thinking all the black stripe tractors had the front pump and forward axle, but I was doing some looking in the good book and see that this hood is correct for that axle also on the 175. Now I just need to figure out if it has the 4.236 or 4.248 Perkins in it.....
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Matt MN
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Posted: 12 Mar 2011 at 10:00pm |
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according to the "Bible" on the 175's the 4.248 replaced the 4.236 in December of 1970 at serial # 1459. And the front mounted Hyd. pump and set back front axle in 1973 at serial # 2035.
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Eldon (WA)
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Posted: 12 Mar 2011 at 10:03pm |
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Looks like 576 old style fronts had the bigger motor in them.....thanks
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Posted: 12 Mar 2011 at 10:07pm |
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Ram is bowed downward too.
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Claus
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Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 3:01am |
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Nothing wrong with the cylinder in that position, still just as strong and the plumbing is cleaner that way as all the lines run down the loader boom.
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 6:53am |
Also keeps water and 'grit' from pooling around the seal and getting inside. Did that 'upside down' install on my Jeep with snowplow and NEVER had to rebuild the lift cylinder.
oh, what's really wrong in the picture....
... tractor's in the WRONG driveway !!!
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Tony Elo
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Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 9:11am |
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Here I thought the muffler wasn't black
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Denis in MI
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Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 9:29am |
 Eldon (WA) wrote:
Now I just need to figure out if it has the 4.236 or 4.248 Perkins in it..... |
If it is like the 6.354 (I Thin) in the masseys it should be stamped next to the injection pump on the block.
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1938 B, 1945 B, 1941 IB, 1949 C, 2 1938 WCs, 3 1950 WDs, 1951 WD, 2 1955 WD45, 1957 D-14
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DSeries4
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Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 9:48am |
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The serial number for the engine can be found on the right side of the block near the head, towards the front.
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Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 10:04am |
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it's sitting outside in the rain!!!
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Dans 7080
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Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 1:05pm |
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We have a GB 880 Workmaster on a 200 and the cylinders are mounted the same way.
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Steve M C/IL
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Posted: 13 Mar 2011 at 1:05pm |
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Don't leave seat with loader in raised position? That is unsafe!LOL
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Eldon (WA)
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Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 9:43pm |
Denis in MI wrote:
Eldon (WA) wrote:
Now I just need to figure out if it has the 4.236 or 4.248 Perkins in it..... |
If it is like the 6.354 (I Thin) in the masseys it should be stamped next to the injection pump on the block. |
Got this one home yesterday....it has a metal plate above the injector pump with the numbers stamped on it. Looks like a more modern engine, it has one of those yellow warning decals on the valve cover...engine is painted black (so it just looks oily in the pics). Uses a solenoid fuel shut-off like modern engines. Runs good now that I got the sediment bowl screen cleaned. Supposed to only have 100 or so hours on it, but the seller tells me when I pick it up that he just had the injector pump rebuilt....don't make sense.
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Claus
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Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 9:50pm |
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Gonna leave the loader on? Bout time you had a 170/175 with a loader Eldon. Nice find.
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Eldon (WA)
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Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 9:56pm |
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Yes I checked it out today and my rotovator will still cover the RH tracks with the wheels set out wide enough to clear the loader frame. I get some tilling jobs where a customer wants some other loader work done while I'm there, so this will be the tractor for jobs like that. It is heavy, tho! I'm thinking 10k with the tiller on the back. It is a little bulky, but I'll get used to it....
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Posted: 24 Mar 2011 at 10:42pm |
Nice find! I gotta say saw looking at that pic makes me think about where tractor design has gone. Now I love my Orange for sure, but fast forward 20+yrs or so and what an improvement there has been. That tractor has real close HP specs to my JD5400 that also has a loader on it. But.....loader only fastens in one place on either side, totally hydraulic steering and front end is mounted on 2 massive trunions. Whole tractor is less than 2/3 the size and is real nibble to drive. With loaded rears its right at 10K. Loader and attachments (bucket, grapple, forks)all quick tach. But......yes that 175 does look better hehehehe.
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Lonn
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Posted: 25 Mar 2011 at 5:53am |
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A 175 should be total hydraulic steering too. One day I'll have a 170 or 175 to mount my 2250 CaseIH loader on. D19 just isn't meant for a loader.
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Posted: 25 Mar 2011 at 6:29am |
Nice find Eldon, that is a good tractor 175 is a all-around tractor, My Dad bought new in 1974 had to order it and when it came in it didn't have the black strip nor say crop hustler on the side panels, the dealer said they would get them, never happened none the less been good tractor around 9000 hr's motor still running stong.
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