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DMiller 
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Location: Hermann, Mo
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 Topic: What is up????
Posted: 04 Nov 2016 at 12:43pm |
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Just picked up the radiators from my 7G(spare) and my 180(spare in tractor), had to go to Belle MO to find a shop of any type that would work on them. Old guy that owns the place is 73 years old, one helper who is 50.
Repair shops are short to non-existent as to radiators or engine machining around here. Some prototype machine shops but most do no engine work, radiator shops from Hermann to St. Louis are mostly junk aluminum core sales shops now and do not do much if any repairs. What will happen in ten years as to finding places to fix any machines?
Edited by DMiller - 04 Nov 2016 at 12:44pm
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darrel in ND
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Posted: 04 Nov 2016 at 12:50pm |
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I guess that us old iron collectors are getting few and far between. Modern society has dictated a "use and throw it out" philosophy. Darrel
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CAL(KS)
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Posted: 04 Nov 2016 at 1:11pm |
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we only have 1 shop halfway close that can repair radiators and he is halfway in the ground
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Me -C,U,UC,WC,WD45,190XT,TL-12,145T,HD6G,HD16,HD20
Dad- WD, D17D, D19D, RT100A, 7020, 7080,7580, 2-8550's, 2-S77, HD15
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steve(ill)
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Posted: 04 Nov 2016 at 3:29pm |
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In 10 years I will be 75 and the boy will be 45.. He could care less about a 75 year old tractor.. WE have SEVERAL that he uses, that I repair.. If no parts or I am gone, I would say some chineese front wheel assist tractor would be filling the bill. There are a few younger ones on this page, but in general, its a dieing show.
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Coke-in-MN
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Posted: 04 Nov 2016 at 3:29pm |
big problem is LEAD in solder - lead is on hit list so anyone using it or working with it is watched closely for environmental hazards in discharge of air or waste water - Friend did them for years and then got rid of his test tanks and equipment when EPA came to his shop and started asking questions - (does them now at home - but not for public)
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DiyDave
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Posted: 04 Nov 2016 at 5:57pm |
Not only lead, the antifreeze, the contaminants, all regulated by osha and EPA regs, who wants to deal with the all knowing burrocrazy... 
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DMiller
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Posted: 06 Nov 2016 at 6:28am |
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I posed the question to our EPA rep at work, "If the lead solder, the anti-freeze residuals and remaining chemicals used in radiator shops was so bad, why are the old men and some women in their late 70's to 80's still alive and doing the work not showing signs of disease or the life peril so attributed to long term exposures to these" He would not answer, stated "they are not normal humans" and walked away. And yes, I complained to my Congressman who immediately blew that off as I want this SOB fired for being ignorant and biased to "general" people.
I was a mechanic, so too my Dad and uncle, many of my family worked in steel mills or paper mills or the refineries in IL, yet all too many of them lived long term no general ills lives, how can the EPA blanket statement that all the stuff we were associated to and exposed to that never bothered us is bad for everyone?
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darrel in ND
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Posted: 06 Nov 2016 at 2:36pm |
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"Not normal humans. ..? "
He is right. ......they are better than normal. Probably have work ethics that would put younger generation to shame, along with a bazillion other good qualities that are becoming extinct. And not to pick on your congress man, bit he probably just blew a little sweet smoke your way, and won't go any farther with it either. Darrel
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shameless (ne)
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Posted: 06 Nov 2016 at 3:17pm |
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armchair workers Darrell!
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LeonR2013
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Posted: 07 Nov 2016 at 8:51pm |
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I think that the new stuff they've come up with to replace the old stuff is probably worse for you than what we had.
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Ian Beale
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Posted: 08 Nov 2016 at 1:23am |
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Darrel
Re your point on elected representatives.
We had one known as "The Toilet Man".
To every question "He'd look into it"
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jaybmiller
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Posted: 09 Nov 2016 at 6:23am |
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I love how everyone here is RIGHT !
Want it done?, right? YOU have to do it yourself..
The GUV is killing the jobs, NOT the lead...
The 'throwaway' philosophy and society is well, just WRONG
hmm, new rad for a D-14 is $450? guess I better keep my parts D-14 !
maybe buy a couple more, just for the rads !!
Jay
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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
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