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    Posted: 16 Feb 2012 at 12:22pm
Have an old WD which has been sitting for a few years. Steering is really hard to turn from side to side. Could the worm gear box in front be gunked up? Any quick fixes?
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If sitting still they are all hard to turn.Take the cap off the ballast and look at the gears.
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Yes, they are hard to turn sitting still, but just as hard while driving around the yard. I don't remember it turning quite so hard years ago. I was thinking of taking off the gear cover and seeing if the lube turned to glue. I remember having a WD45 that turned nice and easy when driving.
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If you jack the front off the ground you will see how freely it turns and you might be able to "feel" any issues.  If it still tight and move real smooth, I'd clean it up.  If you can feel anything inconsistant and the top gears look good it might be the bearings.

I guess I assumed narrow front end but the method works either way..


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I had one like that. It was much better after I greased the front spindles on the wude front.
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If it's narrow front, it might help a bunch to remove the sector gear, drop the shaft out and clean and grease the lower bearing. That bottom timken is like a thrust bearing and takes all the weight of the front.
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If it sat outside it could also be the u-joint in the steering shaft.  I agree with the others, jack her up and try to "feel" where it's binding.
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On wide front model, if the thrust washers on the bottom of the spindles are bad or gone, it will steer hard.
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It is a wide front. I think I will start by checking on the spindles. Thanks for the help.
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AC - after 60 years you need to look over the front end.  New spindle bushing and thrust washers will help a lot.  Also the steering shaft bushing below the gas tank has a tendency to be in a bind.  Try to position it where there is no bind.  My .02cents
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One silly lesson I learned, is to make sure it's sat in a warm shop for a good long time and then trying again before tearing things apart...

I had an old truck once, that the steering was WAY tight on... basically seized... went out and found a replacement steering box for it... it was a cold winter, so I fidgeted the truck around and got it in the shop, put it on jackstands, turned on the furnace, and took the steering box out.  My hands were all cold from workin' on it, so went inside, came back the next morning to mount the new one, went to pull the pitman arm off the old one to move to the new one, only to find that the old steering box was turning just fine.

Steering box was half-full of water... and had frozen!
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Any idea where to get spindle bushings at?
 
thanks Mike
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Originally posted by AC Nut AC Nut wrote:

Yes, they are hard to turn sitting still, but just as hard while driving around the yard. I don't remember it turning quite so hard years ago. I was thinking of taking off the gear cover and seeing if the lube turned to glue. I remember having a WD45 that turned nice and easy when driving.

Well,  I find my tractors seem to steer harder than they did "years ago" as well, but it ain't the fault of the tractor. LOL
I doubt your problem is like I had on my WD-45 a coupla years ago but maybe.
The prior owner had removed the cranking shaft from the pedestal and over the winter mice had built one heck of a nest in there going in and out the holes left by the absence of a shaft. It was all but impossible to steer! It took me a few hours to work that stuff out of there using a piece of real stiff wire with a hook on it. If it had been my WD with the NFE, I could have simply pulled the plate off to get at the nest. Anyway, I have since plugged the holes with corks. I guess that's a real long shot, huh?
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Originally posted by birdhunter birdhunter wrote:

Any idea where to get spindle bushings at?
 

thanks Mike


The bushings are still available from AGCO. When I bought mine they were even in stock.

Wayne
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