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| bradley6874   Orange Level   Joined: 05 Sep 2010 Location: salisbury md Points: 1349 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Topic: Tractors on the road at night. Posted: 22 Jan 2017 at 9:14am | 
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   Again. Thanks for posting I have seen conspicuity tape placed between the dual wheels on the band on both combines and tractors it makes a really nice strobe light when you driving down the road from both the front and the back been we have been thinking about doing it to our tractors that have the axels sticking out, half red half silver that'll do the same thing
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| AC7060IL   Orange Level   Joined: 19 Aug 2012 Location: central IL Points: 3579 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 22 Jan 2017 at 2:13am | 
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   Here is a good link for Illinois rules for implements of husbandry. I imagine other states have similar links.  https://www.ilfb.org/media/2397612/09-implements-of-husbandry_2015-02.pdf Edited by AC7060IL - 22 Jan 2017 at 2:19am | |
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| Ted J   Orange Level     Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: La Crosse, WI Points: 18943 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 21 Jan 2017 at 6:53pm | 
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   That's the safe way to do it Merle....but it's harder now to walk a mile an a half than it was when I was young!  But yeah, I'd reather walk than be on the road with some of the I-dots that are out there now......
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| macvette   Orange Level     Joined: 13 Jun 2011 Location: nekoosa, wi Points: 1657 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 21 Jan 2017 at 11:34am | 
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   Yep, thanks Don.  I only drive on the roads once a year to my tractor show about 3 miles from my house, and during the day.  Have been nearly hit by passing cars a few times while signalling a left turn way ahead of time, while being nearly turned around in the seat. (which causes quite a bit of pain as I have arthritis in my spine and neck)  If I would have just looked shortly before making the left turn, I don't think I would be here posting today. I have waited a couple of times, and gone back the next day to get the tractor if it got too dark to make it home with the sun out.  Fortunately, I am retired, and do not have to be on the road at night with any of my "toys". | |
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| TimNearFortWorth   Orange Level     Joined: 12 Dec 2009 Points: 2014 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 21 Jan 2017 at 9:21am | 
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   Many thanks to Don for posting this, period.
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| nanuk   Silver Level     Joined: 22 Aug 2013 Location: Saskatchewan Points: 258 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 21 Jan 2017 at 3:25am | 
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   I have always told my kid, if you cannot stop in time, you are going too fast. if it is dark, slow down until you KNOW you can stop in time if you see something over the road... even if you can't see it, and something just "LOOKS" not right, SLOW DOWN! I have been ingrained to think that if I drive into something, I am at fault. remember, it could be a driver laying on the road, with their banged up car hiding in the ditch. Just because you cannot see them does not give you the Right to drive over them! and when it comes to driving into oncoming traffic.... you can be "Right" and you can be "Dead Right" Your choice. | |
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| bradley6874   Orange Level   Joined: 05 Sep 2010 Location: salisbury md Points: 1349 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 18 Jan 2017 at 7:02pm | 
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   Don the only mistake you could have made was not posting this brings attention to everybody safety is an issue for all of us that being said we've made up light bars to put on the back of hay wagons conspicuity tape on everything reflectors everywhere
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| CrestonM   Orange Level     Joined: 08 Sep 2014 Location: Oklahoma Points: 8457 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 17 Jan 2017 at 9:25pm | 
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 Out by our farm, everyone out there farms or has farmed for the most part, so we don't have too much trouble with bad city drivers. We never take the 24' header off the L3, and never have an issue. Of course, all the roads are perfectly straight and the ground is flat for miles, so you can see them well in advance. Lol | |
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| Mike Plotner   Orange Level     Joined: 02 Apr 2014 Location: Central Ohio Points: 1577 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 17 Jan 2017 at 9:20pm | 
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   I've gotten pretty used to roading equipment, especially from Lima to Mansfield for work and don't have too much trouble on Old US 30. have way more trouble at home. about impossible to go anywhere when its shift change at the Honda plant. now THOSE people don't know how to drive...
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| Auntwayne   Orange Level   Joined: 23 Apr 2011 Location: Edwardsville Il Points: 1589 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 17 Jan 2017 at 9:02pm | 
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     The left turn is the most dangerous. Even while driving a truck, I always make sure to look in my drivers side mirror before actually turning. When you slow down is when the tailgater is itching to pass without realizing that you ARE turning left.
Don, great post, you just get everyone of us to vent about a very serious problem that we all see on a daily basis. Thank you. Duane
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| Brian Jasper co. Ia   Orange Level   Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Prairie City Ia Points: 10508 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 17 Jan 2017 at 3:57pm | 
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   I'm all for moving over to keep the traffic behind from coming around while you're turning left. 
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| truckerfarmer   Orange Level Access     Joined: 26 Jan 2013 Location: Watertown, SD Points: 3291 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 17 Jan 2017 at 7:53am | 
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 This is why farmers get a bad rap as being road hogs and jerks. | |
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| Ranse   Orange Level     Joined: 11 Mar 2016 Location: Tennessee Points: 782 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 16 Jan 2017 at 10:21pm | 
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   I do that as well if I'm in one of my big tractors. I don't ever try to crowd cars I'm meeting, but if I'm fixing to make a left turn I'll take the middle of the road and don't give cars room to pass. I've had to many cars go around me. Although I wouldn't dare do that on my B or D-10.
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| Brian Jasper co. Ia   Orange Level   Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Prairie City Ia Points: 10508 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 16 Jan 2017 at 9:53pm | 
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 I'm not trying to start a fight, but you'll force the wrong guy off the road one day and regret it. It happened here in central Iowa a number of years ago. Two farmers being first class jerks ended up with one of them shot dead and the other in prison... | |
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| Brian Jasper co. Ia   Orange Level   Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Prairie City Ia Points: 10508 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 16 Jan 2017 at 9:49pm | 
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   Nothing wrong with a "Be careful out there". A few years ago we lost a member of the Red Rock Threshers driving his tractor home from Pella towards Oskaloosa on 163. The shoulder is plenty wide, but it was dark and he only had one of those battery operated magnetic lights. Hit from behind. I don't remember the driver of the vehicle that hit him being impaired.  This sorta hits close to home with me because my two step sons lost their grandfather to an accident with a tractor on a 2 lane bridge. Richard was driving an F150 and hit the left front duals on an 8850 JD. The wheels ended up in the stream and the railing kept his truck on the deck. Had the tractor operator had lights so he could see the full width, it's very likely that accident would not have happened. I'm a big proponent of requiring the use of bright warning lights the full width of any machine that is going to be on a public road. I have no patience for anybody who doesn't care enough to make sure their equipment can be seen. How much does a few feet of wire, a switch, and a few lights cost vs an accident and maybe a fatality? | |
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| wekracer   Orange Level     Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Location: Tebbetts, MO Points: 1590 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 16 Jan 2017 at 9:23am | 
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   The only time I am on the road at night is during planting season. Sometimes I run after dark disking. I only have a mile of paved road but I run with the flood lights on.  I figure they have no excuse not to see me and the factory lights aren't that bright on the 8070 so I see better with flood lights. I have been meaning to upgrade to leds.  It may sound bad but During the day if I am on the gravel road and I see a car coming I stay in the middle of the road and make the car pull over. Too many times I've had cars almost force me into mailboxes and had to slam on the brakes so I make them get over for me. And I'm sure my 8070 FWA with duals looks intimidating coming at them. | |
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| Lonn   Orange Level     Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Назарово,Russia Points: 29817 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 16 Jan 2017 at 6:44am | 
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   Here's a good one I've been told several times. I think it happened back in the 1960's or 70's. I was born in '69 so I wouldn't remember on my own. A guy, who I actually rented his farm from later, was driving his M Farmall and pulling a corn picker was hit by a milk truck from behind. I think it may have been foggy, I don't quite remember the story, but anyway when the truck hit the picker, it tossed the picker up and straight over the top of the farmer and his tractor, missing him and only catching the muffler of the M. I happened to have gotten to know both the farmer driving the tractor and the truck driver, who was also a local farmer, when they were much older. Both are gone now.  That farmer with the M had nine lives. Twice he had gotten caught in a PTO shaft, once in the field in the corn picker pto shaft where the pto had ripped all his clothes clean off and he stood in the wagon waving at cars passing by. One neighbor just waved back and thought he had lost his mind standing with no shirt on in the wagon. Once this farmer had a steel wheeled B run over his head and permanently caused one of his eyes lids to droop and water. BTW both of these farmers were very slow drivers. I remember following the milk truck at a top speed of 35 to 40 day after day when I was headed to work at the Case dealer. And the farmer with the M, later got a D15 and would always drive in low gear the 1/4 mile to the field drive and back. Low gear always in the field too. When I farmed his land I could watch him pull out with his D15 and drive out to me to check on my progress. I'd make several rounds watching him before he got out to me. Sorry about straying off topic but the memory just hit me. | |
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| JCFarms   Orange Level   Joined: 03 Mar 2013 Location: Louisiana Points: 230 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 16 Jan 2017 at 6:36am | 
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 You know what. This IS a good reminder post. As a matter, I will be putting lights on my cattle feeding equipment. I feed a lot at night. I live on a not so busy, rural basically 1 lane road. I alyways figured they could see my one single headlight glow from the rear. Hard to go over 30mph in a vehicle on my road, it'll beat u to death. Looks like I need more lights, reflectors too. I don't have anything on my hay wagon. I'll be fixing that shortly. Thanks Don. It has been on my mind. Mainly because I can't see. Now I will do it because the other operators on the road can't see me either. Eye opener for sure. Even though I almost never meet another vehicle on the road at night feeding my cattle. And if I do it is usually one of the neighbors. I always figured they could see me from a mile away with my one headlight. Also the radio, you can see the blue glow from the radio in the cab from behind the tractor from a good ways, Woah, I just walked around back my tractor and there's a red tail light working!! I guess I would think things would be different if I lived on a busy 2 Lane Highway. Edited by JCFarms - 20 Jan 2017 at 11:13pm | |
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| Burgie   Orange Level   Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Scottsburg, IN Points: 1192 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 16 Jan 2017 at 6:26am | 
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   I do tilling gardens with my D15 Series II.On the road quite a bit,I went with LED flashers. If I get hit the 55  gal. of whip ass will be opened.
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| JC-WI   Orange Level Access   Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: wisconsin Points: 34374 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 15 Jan 2017 at 10:21pm | 
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   From driving tractor on the road for the last 55 years, seen lots of stupid... like a fool going past me when I was already next to the ditch with a semi mounted plow on behind... couldn't wait for traffic to open just 3 cars more so instead he goes down on the ditch bank and blows past with just inches from me.. and giving me birdie hand signal... and one doped up woman that came across at an angle forcing me to either take the ditch or move into the left lane... lucky no one was coming and the 3 cars behind me followed suit. That crazy driver drove for another 4 miles on the wrong side of the road. Of course theres always those that can't stand 15 mph tractor and have to pass even when there really is no room to pass... | |
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| Alex09(WI)   Orange Level     Joined: 15 Mar 2012 Location: CECIL WI Points: 1759 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 15 Jan 2017 at 10:10pm | 
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   That is a good point to bring up Don. If you drive a tractor at night a slow moving vehicle sign and rear + front lights are a must. I work for a dairy farm here in WI and it is a usual occurrence for tractors to be seen on the road. Drivers here are usually very alert when it comes to tractors & combines. In the springtime, there might be more tractors on the road than vehicles, or so it seems. I plan on installing modern flashing lights on my old allis's to be safe on the road.  Regarding the hand signals, I don't recall the drivers education teacher teaching us hand signals (class was in 2006) but in this area it should be taught. I always hesitate to haul loaded hay wagons on the road with my WD45 because the load of hay obscures the tractor. | |
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| Ranse   Orange Level     Joined: 11 Mar 2016 Location: Tennessee Points: 782 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 15 Jan 2017 at 8:52pm | 
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   Don, I agree, nothing wrong with your post. I think it just hit a sore spot with everyone, I know it did with me. I guess we all have had bad experiences with tractors and automobiles. I was in an accident involving a tractor and a pickup when I was 12 years old. It was technically my fault but the truck was speeding. The driver of that truck was killed a few years later in another accident. The tractor driver in your son's case was just guilty of bad judgement, sometimes that's fatal. Be thankful nothing worse happened, and we all need to use good judgement.
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| Ted J   Orange Level     Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: La Crosse, WI Points: 18943 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 15 Jan 2017 at 4:16pm | 
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 I doubt VERY MUCH if the kids (I'll say all the way up to 30) have ever heard of hand signals. Heck, I'd venture to guess that whomever is giving the driving lessons has heard of these laws. Al lot of police don't know the laws......I'm ranting............it's from experience with law enforcement around here..... I have and LOVE these magnetic flashing and steady lights I have to put on anything I am pulling. TWO sets, one flashing, one steady. Orange in the front and red in the rear. I just wish they were LEDs....they are brighter. Don, NOTHING WRONG with this post.......we need to be aware , especially at certain times of the year, we need a reminder. BE SAFE and see you tomorrow!! | |
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| Hubert (Ga)engine7   Orange Level     Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Jackson Cnty,GA Points: 6500 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 15 Jan 2017 at 12:45pm | 
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   Don, you were not wrong to post this. You were not throwing rocks at anybody and we all need reminders about safety everyday. If we can learn from someone else's mistakes it may save us a lot of headaches down the road.
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| Dan73   Orange Level     Joined: 04 Jun 2015 Location: United States Points: 6054 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 15 Jan 2017 at 12:31pm | 
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   Don it is a good point to be safe and be seen at night.  I put the led marker lights for a trailer on my d15 rear fenders as I tend to be out late working with it. I have a set to put on my d17 as well they make a big difference.  
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| DanWi   Orange Level Access     Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Location: wttn Points: 1941 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 15 Jan 2017 at 11:23am | 
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   Don there was nothing wrong with your post. I am a farmer and I know that we have to be responsible for being on the road at night with farm equipment especially during adverse weather. I have a friend who knows a state patrol officer, the officer was investigating a death caused by someone rearending a 1066 that had a round bale on the 3 point and the officer knew that my friend had a 1066 like the one involved in the accident because he wanted to know if the rear lights would be visible with that bale on the back. Even if and when we have working lights on the back they may be blocked by whatever we are hauling or pulling from the point of view of someone sitting in a car.
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| john0030   Bronze Level     Joined: 01 Jan 2017 Location: Michigan Points: 47 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 15 Jan 2017 at 11:22am | 
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   Agreed. You were not wrong to post this. Some one might get a chuckle out of those Wally World reflectors I stuck on the Allis. I haven't seen too many tractor drivers being stupid on the roads out in the country where I live, but plenty of young kids out here still learning from the school of hard knocks. Nothing wrong with reminding anyone to be safe and courteous and to remember to make sure we tractor drivers are seen by motorists.  | |
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| Richardmo   Orange Level Access     Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Rolla mo. Points: 1746 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 15 Jan 2017 at 11:14am | 
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   Don, You are not wrong to post this, brings attention to safety on the roads with farm equipment. Glad nobody got hurt. | |
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| Don(MO)   Orange Level   Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Bates City MO. Points: 6862 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 15 Jan 2017 at 11:05am | 
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   I was wrong to post this and I'm sorry, I was not trying to beat the tractor driver up for using his tractor on the road, I was trying to remind all of us to be save when we do get on the road at night. Please reread the last line of my first post. here it is again. "So PLEASE guys be save and keep your lights all working before getting out on the roads at night." | |
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| john0030   Bronze Level     Joined: 01 Jan 2017 Location: Michigan Points: 47 |  Post Options  Thanks(0)  Quote  Reply  Posted: 15 Jan 2017 at 10:38am | 
| My background on road safety comes from 20+ years of driving
a motorcycle. It was dangerous in the 90's but I kept riding until I got
married a few years back. Realized the thrill of riding a steel horse just
wasn't worth it. Now divorced, but won't take up riding again. Nowadays
everyone has a cellphone. Between that and kids texting and people who have
actual televisions in their dash and the deer population, just not worth it. Adding
this little intro to show I know full well the hazards and stupidity one can
encounter from drivers, not just in the city, but in the country too.  Makes me nervous just driving
into my own dirt road, mile long dead end, to turn around while plowing my
driveway with a blade. For dusk and night time, I’m currently using cheap reflectors
I got from Wally World. In the spring time, I’m upgrading to super high bright
leds which will turn my front lights into floods. As soon as I get the platform
assembly redone, hazard triangle is going on back. And I still wouldn’t drive
this thing down the main road day or night, although other farmers do.  
 
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