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Pinehillfarm1884 
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 Topic: Allis 180 trouble getting into gear!!!
Posted: 09 Oct 2024 at 6:33pm |
Hello all, learned a ton from reading here. Owned a 200 for a short period a few years ago. Hard times and regret selling it. My wife and I just moved back to the family farm circa 1884 and looking for a nice utility tractor to help maintain the property. Only Allis tractors have ever been on this ground and I want to keep it that way. I looked at a beautiful 180 today, 2nd owner and only has a little over 2100 hours. Drove around for about 20 minutes and my father in-law did as well. Everything looked and worked as it should, biggest issue is getting into gear!
Didn't matter which gear I chose, I would push the clutch in, but then have to back off to almost 1/4 of the the full pedal travel to get the shifter to engage and then drop into a gear. I tested all gears, all worked well with the power director, nothing seemed to pop out. But it was a pain to get into any of them, like I really had to work to find a sweet spot on the clutch travel to get it to drop into a gear.
Is this a major issue or just a matter of adjusting something on the clutch pedal? I really hope to own this machine, it's beautiful! The old man has had it for 27 years and only used it to mow his 2 drainage ditches on his 40 acre farm. He's put less then 400 hours on it in 27 years! He was a body guy, so even repainted, replaced injection and water pump, there's not a dent of speck of rust on this tractor!
Any response is much appreciated!!!!
-Luke
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DrAllis
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Posted: 09 Oct 2024 at 7:04pm |
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Remove the left rear hood side panel. Locate the clutch linkage rod clevis. Lengthen it out (maybe 1/2" or more longer) so when you bottom out the clutch pedal to stop and then release the pedal just an inch or so, the tractor then starts to move. You'll need a pair of pliers, side cutters, penetrating oil and a punch to put into the clevis holes to turn the clevis. Takes a 1/2" wrench to remove the side hood panel.
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jiminnd
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Posted: 09 Oct 2024 at 7:12pm |
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The DR probably has the answer but my 185 is the same way, have had several people tell me this is a common issue with Allis.
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1945 C, 1949 WF and WD, 1981 185, 1982 8030, unknown D14(nonrunner)
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DrAllis
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Posted: 09 Oct 2024 at 7:30pm |
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It's a matter of technique. You can't force it into ANY gear if the shifting dogs aren't aligned, so it sometimes takes just a bit of teasing with the clutch pedal to get things to mate up. It works sooo much better if the clutch pedal is adjusted properly.
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Pinehillfarm1884
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Posted: 09 Oct 2024 at 7:34pm |
Dr Allis, you're a national treasure, Thank you!!
jiminnd, has yours always been this way and still operates just as it should?
I'm really thinking this is a great machine to be had, I think i can get it for $6k with a brush hog. I don't mind tinkering, if it takes splitting or any lengthy repairs, I'm out. Not enough free time between owning a business and having a young family.
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DrAllis
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Posted: 09 Oct 2024 at 7:45pm |
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When it doesn't go fully into gear, keep steady pressure against the gearshift and gently start to release the clutch pedal ever so slightly. At some point it will pop right into gear. With a properly adjusted clutch pedal, you can keep your left heel on the platform and pivot your ankle instead of using your leg. Do all this with the engine idling slow.
Edited by DrAllis - 09 Oct 2024 at 7:46pm
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captaindana
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Posted: 09 Oct 2024 at 8:24pm |
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Yup Docs got this again!
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Blue Skies and Tail Winds
Dana
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Pinehillfarm1884
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Posted: 09 Oct 2024 at 8:34pm |
 DrAllis wrote:
When it doesn't go fully into gear, keep steady pressure against the gearshift and gently start to release the clutch pedal ever so slightly. At some point it will pop right into gear. With a properly adjusted clutch pedal, you can keep your left heel on the platform and pivot your ankle instead of using your leg. Do all this with the engine idling slow.
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This is exactly what I figured out after my 10 minutes or so of driving around the field, I'm just so glad to hear it's not some major clutch wear issue. I'm cool with tinkering and understand these old girls need the right touch! Think I'll buy me a 180 this weekend. I can't figure out how to resize and share a picture of my father in-law on it when we tested today but first time he's been on a tractor since the dairy was retired in 1986. I think he was very happy.
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Allis dave
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Posted: 10 Oct 2024 at 8:21am |
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My 185, D17, and WD45 are all the same way. Sometimes they slide right into gear, and sometimes I have to let out the clutch a little then it will drop in.
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