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HD6GTOM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Location: MADISON CO IA Points: 6627 |
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Thinking about picking up a bigger saw. Menards has Jonsered or Poulan on their 11% off sale. Anybody have a preference between the 2. I haven't checked with my local echo dealer. My Echo saw sits for months at a time with e10 in it and no problems in the 20 years I've owned it. I have some huge cotton wood trees that are dying and 1 big old elm that died over 10 years ago. It finally fell down last fall. Need to clean them up.
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NomoreJohnDeere ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 24 Jul 2017 Location: Missouri Ozarks Points: 308 |
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jonsered owned by husky now
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Matt (Jordan,MN) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Jordan, MN Points: 3799 |
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Jonsered and poulan are both owned by Husqvarna now. If I had to pick between the 2 I would pick Jonsered. I own 2 Husqvarnas and a old 70E Jonsered and they never give me any problems. I looked at the poulans in the store and they look very cheap to me. I think Poulans would be ok if you cut the occasional tree and do some trimming but not for doing heavy cutting.
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Ted J ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Jul 2010 Location: La Crosse, WI Points: 18923 |
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Tom, are you looking for a longer bar, or more HP? I've cut some trees that are almost 4ft across with a little Husqvana. A professional I know uses a LITTLE Stihl with a 12" bar anc cuts down some 20" across. I couldn't believe it the first time I saw him do it. Of course his saws are SHARP.
What model is you Echo? |
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HD6GTOM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Location: MADISON CO IA Points: 6627 |
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Ted longer bar maybe more hp. These trees I have to cut are 4'+ across.
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Dave H ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Central IL Points: 3558 |
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Seems to me like you are pushing it leaving the gas in for a long time. I donno. ![]() Considering how much I am loosing, I always dump the fuel out and run the carb out if the saw is gonna set for a while. Different ways to skin a cat. Have you checked to see what it would cost you to pony up for a Stihl?
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JC-WI ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: wisconsin Points: 34169 |
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I would stay away from the P... Picked up a box store poolon several years ago and it read something like 'life expectancy 15 hours.' in very small print on a tag. Seen that and decided that this manufactor of saws was only interested in making money , not lifelong customers. Maybe look at the Echo...
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He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself
The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that." |
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ac fleet ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Jan 2014 Location: Arrowsmith, ILL Points: 2324 |
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Echo 8000 will take them down!! lol! I got one on my 36" alaskan mill. These old guys have what it takes. For smaller stuff I use a Echo 310 or Husky 235, both good saws. To answer your question, Jonsered probably the better one. I have Poulans but not real fond of them.
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Scott B ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2013 Location: Kansas City Points: 1047 |
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Walmart sells Poulans….for me that's enough of reason to go a different direction; unless of course, your wife is the one buying at Walmart so you can saw up that 3" diameter X 6' limb that fell
![]() I run Stihls but I watched a guy doing some figure carvings outside of a Menards with a Jonesred…..I was impressed. I also believe in big power and the sharpest blades (maybe even brand new) for big jobs....for a tree 4' in diameter, I'd even consider renting a high HP saw with a big bar. You don't want to be screwing around under a dead tree trying to get the job done with too small of a tool. I've also taken to wearing one of those Stihl hard hats with the hearing protection (but probably too late on the hearing piece!)
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HD6GTOM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Location: MADISON CO IA Points: 6627 |
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I think I'll get ahold of the Echo dealer when he opens up tomorrow. Probably the best plan.
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mdm1 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Onalaska, WI Points: 2665 |
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Check on an Echo. When I bought mine they had by far the best warranty. I think it was 5yrs. I run nonethanol gas and sythetic oil in all my 2 cycles seems to work good for me. Don't go under powered if you can help it.
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Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK!
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Stan IL&TN ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Elvis Land Points: 6730 |
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The only thing a new Poulan is good for is added weight in the back of the pickup in winter and when spring comes throw it out and into a ditch to help slow down the Spring runoff. And this from someone who owned three of them and loved the first two. The last one I gave away because I would feel bad to take $10 for it.
Go look at the Echo. |
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1957 WD45 dad's first AC
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allisbred ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 28 Mar 2015 Location: Hanover Pa Points: 1011 |
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Sounds like my kind of trees! Stihl 880 will make seconds on those cuts instead of minutes. I like big HP for heavy cutting. I bought a 880 & 660 when they came out think about 15 years ago. Worth every penny. You can sell the big saw when finished if needed and will be further ahead in my opinion.
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DaveKamp ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Apr 2010 Location: LeClaire, Ia Points: 5957 |
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There's a basic rule of social policy that suggests the pathway to maintaining social dignity is to simply exclude from discussion anything regarding religion or politics. I think preference of chainsaws should be included... ![]() ![]() Okay, so a guy wants to get a new chainsaw, and wants something 'bigger'... And that is TOTALLY insufficient in description. Bigger than WHAT? Bigger than a Stihl MS180E with a 14" full tooth 3/8x0.050" chain? Bigger than an Efco 2500MTT with a 12" BAR? OR A Stihl 036, or what? I'll agree that the Stihl MS-880 is certainly bigger, and with an 18" bar, it will out-cut ANY other saw that'll take an 18" blade, but that big engine will wear a guy out trimming branches from a ladder. It is most important to qualify what you WANT to do with it, and then, identify what kind of wood. Trimming mulberry volunteers from around the house is one thing, felling a 30" diameter ash tree is another, and felling a 6' diameter soft maple is yet another. Once felled, cutting the trees up, is an entirely different story. That's why I have oh... I think there's ten saws in my shed... at least fifteen bars, sixty chains, and an electric sharpener... not that I cut a lot of wood, but I cut enough to know what I need. Out of all the saws I've owned and used, the ones I DON'T recommend, are available at Lowe's, Home Depot, etc., with names on them that are NOT the same as the name of the guys that actually 'built' the saw... and as important... that the guys that BUILT the saw, have the same, or a similar saw, by three OTHER names... oftentimes competing at the SAME store. I only buy saws labeled with, and by the company that actually MANUFACTURED the saw, and they don't make saws for any OTHER company. You won't find a STIHL re-branded for Lowe's. You won't find a Husky re-branded for Wal-Mart... and you won't find an ECHO wearing the colors of SEARS. Next... I don't buy saws that have plastic engine cases, cheezy fasteners, or poorly made bars. IF you look at a saw, and it doesn't come with a bar and chain, it's a professional saw... because a pro is going to CHOOSE the chain and bar type he needs for what he will do most. I may have some saws that are labeled 'homeowner', but they're all 'professional grade'. That being the case, there are many brands out there that you will NEVER see being used by a professional, and that's why you won't see those brands in my hands... they aren't designed to last and work in a bona-fide work environment. So Stihl, Husky, Shindaiwa, Echo... Following close behind is Efco, and SOLO (apparently no longer in the chainsaw biz). After that, it's all about what limitations you're currently experiencing with what you have, in the realm of what you're TRYING to do. Yes, there's guys that will fell a 40" tree with a 20" saw... it CAN be accomplished, but generally speaking, the SAFEST felling operation is the one that takes the tree from standing, to falling, in the least amount of operations, and shortest amount of time in which the saw operator is exposed to cutting a weakened tree. If it's a 44" diameter tree, I'm going straight to the MS800 with a 50" bar and a skip-tooth chain.
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Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest.
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mdm1 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Onalaska, WI Points: 2665 |
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So inquiring minds want to know! What did you do?
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Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK!
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wide ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 29 Dec 2018 Location: north iowa Points: 169 |
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"and you won't find an ECHO wearing the colors of SEARS.'
You will find ECHO wearing a John Deere label. EV55 |
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HD6GTOM ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Nov 2009 Location: MADISON CO IA Points: 6627 |
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I Havnt done anything yet. I had this stupid operation on the nose. Fought that for a week, now I gots a dang abscess tooth and a bottle of big old antibiotic pills. Gonna see the dang dentist tomorrow if I can get in and have this dang tooth pulled. I'm still freezing cold tonight. Echo dealer is closed on Monday and its snowing like crazy here tonight. So it looks like later in the week before I can get to feeling better
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Stan IL&TN ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Elvis Land Points: 6730 |
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Dave I'm one of those that cut a 40" tree down with an 18" bar but I had two tow straps with come alongs on it to make sure it didn't fall on the neighbors garage. I got the wedge cut and make the back cut all the way around it and that 4" I could not reach kept it standing until I tightened up the straps and I heard a loud pop. I walked up to my neighbor who was watching and said why did you stop. I said just wait a minute. About a minute later there was another loud pop and that big sucker fell and boy did it shake the ground. What was a bigger pain was cutting up that 40" trunk into small enough pieces so I could handle them and haul them off. Spent the next month doing that.
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1957 WD45 dad's first AC
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Scott B ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2013 Location: Kansas City Points: 1047 |
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Now Dave, what about those little electric Citibot plug in saws? Surely they’ll take down a 40” tree...... ![]() ![]() |
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JC-WI ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: wisconsin Points: 34169 |
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Hey hey hey, don't be pick'n on them little electrics... they work pretty good at the stove to cut the occasional stick that is to long... instead of pulling the stick out totally. But need a new one since the little electric McCullach finally quit. A commutator bar lifted.
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He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself
The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that." |
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Clay ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Udall, Kansas Points: 9678 |
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I like Stihl chainsaws. They work GREAT!
The electric pole saws are very handy. I put the portable generator on the flat bed pickup, a long heavy duty extension cord and am in business. Sure is nice to trim low hanging branches around fields and the roads. A neighbor has a battery powered chainsaw. It is amazing how much power it has and how long it will run. The nice thing about the electric is the noise reduction.
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DaveKamp ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Apr 2010 Location: LeClaire, Ia Points: 5957 |
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Many years ago, I bought a Remington electric... the light grey and orange one, and not for cutting trees. See... I was renovating the bathroom in our prior house, and one of the functions was moving the back wall of the bathroom about 16" back, into an area that was to become our laundry room... and there was a section of floor in that bathroom that NO saw could get into... not even a toe-kick saw would get in there, so I bought the electric Remmy, and it did a fine job of cutting with the tip... and reaching in there deep, cutting flush against stuff that the sawzall simply couldn't reach. I used it for some trimming outside too... but unfortunately, the plastic gears gave up... but it was great for using indoors. Wide- yes, and I THINK we might see Jonsereds saws of the '70's wearing Allis colors... My uncle purchased his Jons through his AC dealer... But don't forget the EViL Twin- the 610EVL... wonderful smooth idle, but too heavy. If it'd been oh... 150cc instead, it would've been fine as heavier, but the song of that saw is sweet... Farm imp companies DID 'badge engineer' products, but basically NONE of them picked 'junk'. I have a JD-badged saw here that was manufactured (and it's very clearly marked as ) by EFCO. In their 'green value' form, JD had the parts book made such that it was very, very, very difficult to accurately cross-reference a common Effie part directly... a consumer would basically HAVE to go to the JD dealer to have them look up, and order it... which I think is a really insolent stunt, but that's what GREEN is all about.
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Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest.
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JohnCO ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Niwot Colo Points: 8992 |
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I bought a HF 40 volt Lynxx chainsaw over a year ago. It's not a Stihl but when I'm in my bucket truck, it's hard to beat. Battery lasts about the same as a tank of fuel, which is usually enough for me and the job. I bought a Lynxx 40 volt pole saw last summer at the HF tent sale, missing it's battery charger, for $30. The battery alone is $60 so I got a deal. I tried it out yesterday and it didn't cut once I put it against a branch. Took it apart and discovered the two screws that hold the motor to the body were loose. Tightened them up and put it back together. works like a champ. Trimmed a bunch of overhanging branches along a quarter mile of irrigation ditch today. Battery still was strong. Was happy to see the saw is pretty well made with steel gears and ball bearings. Certinally not made for production work but it will do the job for me.
Edited by JohnCO - 15 Jan 2020 at 11:19pm |
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