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Red Bank 
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Posted: 14 May 2018 at 9:07pm |
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As mentioned in my other post I bought two 200s this spring. One will pop out of third going up hill and tonight the other one popped out going down hill with a 273 square baler hooked to it. What is the fix for this?
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MACK
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Posted: 14 May 2018 at 9:57pm |
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Might try moving shift rail detent if lever will go past detent. MACK
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dawntreader74
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Posted: 14 May 2018 at 10:52pm |
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they were good for that' had one we had to put a strap on it to hold it in gear;
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Posted: 15 May 2018 at 9:06am |
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Don't put a strap or bungie cord to hold them in gear all that doe's is wear the fork out have someone move the notch on the shifting rail. I have done that on many A-C trans. covers !
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Red Bank
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Posted: 15 May 2018 at 1:40pm |
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Does the top cover come off transmission and the shifter fiorks accessible that way?
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 15 May 2018 at 2:03pm |
 Red Bank wrote:
Does the top cover come off transmission and the shifter fiorks accessible that way? |
yes,I think there is 2 special bolts in cover for locating plate...pay attention. Don't remember if there is a certain gear you should put it in to make easier to remove/install.If so it's usually 2nd?
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Posted: 15 May 2018 at 9:28pm |
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The proper fix is a complete teardown and rebuilding of the transmission. Around $1500 worth of parts (not including labor). Anything else is just a band aid.
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Red Bank
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Posted: 15 May 2018 at 11:17pm |
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So it's usually a gear or bearing problem and not a shifter fork problem?
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Posted: 16 May 2018 at 5:58am |
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All of the above, DSeries4 is right
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Posted: 16 May 2018 at 6:52am |
Red Bank wrote:
So it's usually a gear or bearing problem and not a shifter fork problem? |
Actually, it's an operator problem. If a guy was to push the clutch in while in any gear, stop the rear wheels from turning and shift, it will never start popping out of gear. ANY grinding while shifting isn't the gears, they are meshed all the time. What is grinding away is the spline on the hub of the gear and the collar you are sliding over it. Once they are rounded off to the point of popping out of gear, the sure fix is replacing the collar and the gear, to get new full contact area.
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Posted: 16 May 2018 at 7:05am |
CTuckerNWIL wrote:
Red Bank wrote:
So it's usually a gear or bearing problem and not a shifter fork problem? |
Actually, it's an operator problem. If a guy was to push the clutch in while in any gear, stop the rear wheels from turning and shift, it will never start popping out of gear. ANY grinding while shifting isn't the gears, they are meshed all the time. What is grinding away is the spline on the hub of the gear and the collar you are sliding over it.
Once they are rounded off to the point of popping out of gear, the sure fix is replacing the collar and the gear, to get new full contact area.
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Yes and no, eventually bearing slop from wear will cause them to pop out. Of course changing the transmission oil as recommended can greatly increase bearing life along with keeping contaminates out of the oil such as dirt and water. I've seen many a poor old tractor filled with what looks like chocolate malt in the transmission and hydraulics.
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DrAllis
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Posted: 16 May 2018 at 7:33am |
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Send me your shift cover and I'll work it over. If it still jumps out of gear, you need gears bearings and shift couplings.
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Red Bank
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Posted: 16 May 2018 at 1:21pm |
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Thank you for the offer DrAllis I will send it but it may be a while I still need to bale hay with it and then I can tear it down and send it to you.
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Posted: 16 May 2018 at 4:29pm |
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The Dr knows his stuff , id do that before a complete tear down
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