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GM Guy 
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Location: NW KS / S.C. ID
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 Posted: 12 Apr 2017 at 11:40pm |
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If you were baling more, I would vote Hesston inline and forget the rest.
The amount you are baling: whatever is cheap and in decent shape.
I hate NH balers, but the one thing to keep in mind is they made light duty and heavy duty models. A 273, 275 and 277 were the same vintage IIRC, and the 277 is alot more heavy duty than the 273.
I think the 273 overran into the 276/278 era as well, and same deal, the big brothers were better units.
Our best NHs were a wire tie 277 and a super 68. other than those two we have had zero luck with NH balers.
A friend from Idaho that does commercial stacking for a living spits on NHs, tolerates JDs, and is debating about offering a discount if you run a Hesston. He thinks that the Hesston inline is hands down the best baler ever made.
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Mikez
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Posted: 13 Apr 2017 at 7:02am |
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Oh gm guy where were you when I was debating what new baler to buy. Was looking at hesston. They aren't that popular around here so I couldn't get anybody's view on it. I bought a nh 5070
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DougS
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Posted: 13 Apr 2017 at 8:52am |
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The direct chamber feed of the Heston is supposed to make a tighter more consistent bale. The down side I've read about is the twine is on the cut edges of the hay, making handling a bit more difficult. Horse owners complain about this more than anyone.
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WF owner
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Location: Bombay NY
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Posted: 13 Apr 2017 at 4:14pm |
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I know a guy that has a Massey-Ferguson (Hesston) inline with no thrower (he uses a NH bale wagon). He absolutely flies when baling. He claims he can bale 100 bales every 15 minutes under ideal conditions.
I always felt the John Deere made a lot squarer bale than a NH. The Hesston makes a nice square bale.
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cottonpatch
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Posted: 13 Apr 2017 at 7:44pm |
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cottonpatch looks like you got the same deal i got on the baler. i bought mine and it was still in a create and i had to put it together. nearly everywhere around here they was 20+ for the baler my cusin bought one for 15 maybe somewhere off from here. mine come all the way from north or south Carolina the balers was going to be shipped outa country but the economy tanked where they was sending them and they was stuck with them me and another man each bought one. wish i had the 5060 but i wouldnt have got the deal like that |
I could have gotten the 5060 for not quite $1000 more, but I don't have the acreage to justify it. I think the 5050 will resale better as the tractor requirement is less and ideal for smaller guys. I wanted the 5060, but my dealer felt the 5050 would be all I needed. It's a slick little baler
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cottonpatch
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Posted: 13 Apr 2017 at 7:59pm |
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The Massey Ferguson/Hesston inline is a fine baler without a doubt. I could not get that good of a deal on one as I could the NH, $4k difference between the 1837 versus the BC5050, and they don't have the resale value that NH does in VA. Four thousand dollars bought a lot of fertilizer.
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'52 CA, '61 D10 II, ‘61 D15, '66 D15II, '63 D17D III, ‘69 170, '73 185 Crop Hustler, '79 185, '79 7000, '77 7040
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Mikez
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Posted: 13 Apr 2017 at 8:32pm |
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Yea that's what I was afraid of to. My hay goes to a lot of horse people that handle it. Me and dad were afraid of the cut end on the string side.
As for a guy to buy a older baler to just do a few acres. I started out with a old IH 420. It did its job but some parts weren't available. I would go with new hollend becouse parts would be available and you see more of them around for you to choose from
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JohnCO
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Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 1:21am |
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I've never owned a JD baler but have had a few JD swathers, and IMHO, JD has never built a good piece of haying machinery. My first baler was a used MF #10 I bought in 1972, then a MF 124 which made the #10 look like a toy. The local MF dealer went out of business so I bought a new Hesston 4600, beeline baler, in the 1980's which made the 124 look like a toy. Still have the 4600, bought a couple other 4600's cheap, one was good one more problems. Last month bought a CIH 8545 at an auction, which is the same as the Hesston 4590, which, if my buddy with three of them is right, will make my 4600 look like a toy! The Hesston 4600's bring around $1,700 to $3,000 around here, CIH, Hesston, Challenger and MF dealers all stock (or can get) parts for them. BTW, the only knoter problem I had with the Massey baler was a little curved spring that would last almost exactly 17,000 bales. Only cost a couple bucks and was an easy fix. As long as you don't screw down the bale tension too hard, the 124 will make nice bales. The weak part of the MF balers for me was the pick up just wore out.
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allismanamp
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Posted: 15 Apr 2017 at 5:12am |
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My super 66 new holland with a twin Wisconsin will still bale with the best of them and it's light I pull it with. Wd45
I've owned 2 and my dad ran his for 40 years we put a exhaust valve and new belts in it they run for ever and I would not even think of getting rid of mine it's a collector item now still has its original paint job on it I gave 750 for it but think that was more than fair for its condition
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