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    Posted: 08 Dec 2015 at 8:24am
I never have driven a Combine, we only used a 66 pull type. 
Being behind them on the road they seem to wobble all over the place. Are they that hard to drive at speed in a straight line?
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Yes!  Because of the rear wheel steering.

You really have to pay attention, and make VERY small steering inputs at high speed.

The only time I have ever been nervous driving a piece of equipment, was the first time I drove the N7 over to my uncle's place.  It's not bad after you are used to it, but you have to pay attention, something some folks just can't do well.

It seems worse without a head on, because you can use the snoots or the real, to act a bit like a pointer.  Without it, your reaction is delayed slightly more.

Now days combines go faster than the old N7 so it is probably more pronounced.
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They can be. The big tires, rear steering and no mechanical linkage to the steering axle can make it a hairy trip. Especially in a Gleaner because, at least for the older combines, they were faster than most. I road my L2 at 22mph once but not for long. I say road because at that speed on that combine I didn't feel like I was driving much. I felt like I was on an out of control rocket at that speed. 15 mph is much easier on the nerves.

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I drove a L2 150 miles years ago for a dealer transfer, and then drove another L2 180 miles the next day.
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Wow! That's a long trip in a Gleaner!!
I've never had much of a problem, but I know another farmer who had an L series (I forget which). He was always too scared to road at full speed, so he'd go kinda slow. Once when he was going down the road he hit a pothole and the header FELL OFF!!! The combine bounded over it and it tore the rear axle off!!!
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Ialwys thought my C2 was better on the road than the M2, it, the C2, had direct link to rear wheels so maybe that helped.
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The tires are flat spotted from sitting. That first drive is a wild ride for the first few miles until they round out. Years ago a farmer around here went through a bridge on a two lane black top then started up the some what steep hill. 3/4's of the way up, the hydrostat belt snapped. He kept it upright and didn't kill anyone. I have seen one in a ditch and heard of one that fell though an old wooden bridge.

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This was a large CaseIH I was behind yesterday, no head. He would go off the side when  car came but then took up 3/4 of the road the remaining time. I don't blame him. I stayed behind him for 2 miles as I knew he was turning into a field ahead. Cars behind me were antsy and many pulled out and went past as fast as they could. Some came close to getting clipped as he darted about.
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I didn't mind driving them on the road, just like anything else--takes getting used to.
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i know that we bought a c gleaner combine and that my dad said that it was so slow that we took are truck and we pulled it home and that he was steering the combine and that with the head on head said that it jumps like a squeral on the back
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Originally posted by CrestonM CrestonM wrote:

Wow! That's a long trip in a Gleaner!!
I've never had much of a problem, but I know another farmer who had an L series (I forget which). He was always too scared to road at full speed, so he'd go kinda slow. Once when he was going down the road he hit a pothole and the header FELL OFF!!! The combine bounded over it and it tore the rear axle off!!!

That is scary!
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My F is a good cruiser on roads, little light in the rear though with a 4 row corn head. It feels like your going to nose dive at every bump, not a pleasant feeling.
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   I go 22 mph with my R50, with 6 row corn head on I find it very stable.
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C2 with aftermarket road box! 30plus haha. My dad says you better have the header on or it gets to bouncing!
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Our self propelled windrower is way worse to road than the combine
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Originally posted by CALEBnOK CALEBnOK wrote:

C2 with aftermarket road box! 30plus haha. My dad says you better have the header on or it gets to bouncing!

Wow! Aftermarket road box???? Never heard of one! Is that at your place, or at the ranch?



Still can't imagine 30+ on a Gleaner....Wow!
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If the "toe" is off much it makes it a lot worse.My F2 only goes 17mph according to speed indicator and it is good with or without heads.
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Charlie175, as a combine operator/driver, the WORST thing when travelling on the road is to have someone following/not willing to pass. You have experienced why I say this. The person behind you now has to pass 2 vehicles, the person behind them,3, and so on, until someone gets too impatient and ..... I have actually stopped, got out of the machine, and waved them by. Call them disciples (followers). Not picking on you, brother and father bringing the head and wagons are just as bad. A lot of times all the squirrelly driving is avoiding roadside obstacles, shoulder holes or bumps like Shameless has installed, or oncoming traffic that has malfunctioning steering and will not move over. Some machines are worse than other (L2 and R50 were squirrelly, R62 nice and straight). Got run off the road into a shallow ditch once, no damage and was able to back out. AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN AGAIN. Just something for everyone to think about. Rob.
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Passed a 6620 JD going down the highway with the R50 last year coming home from a custom job.  The fella in the Deere was not impressed.
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like Unit3 says, drive them slow til the tires round out, then pick a speed that you are comfy with. don't worry bouts the idiots in the cars, they are on their own! years ago I drove an N6 into the heart of Omaha, I don't think the dude driving behind me in his Lexus convertible knew what a combine was, but found out while laying on his horn what that demo machine had inside of it!
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Originally posted by SHAMELESS SHAMELESS wrote:

like Unit3 says, drive them slow til the tires round out, then pick a speed that you are comfy with. don't worry bouts the idiots in the cars, they are on their own! years ago I drove an N6 into the heart of Omaha, I don't think the dude driving behind me in his Lexus convertible knew what a combine was, but found out while laying on his horn what that demo machine had inside of it!

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Shameless' story reminds me....I took an All-Crop sprocket to Ag to get welded on, as I don't have cast iron welding rods at home. The following conversation took place:
Girl: What's that?
Me: A sprocket.
Girl: What's that for?
Me: A chain runs on it.
Girl: What's it for?
Me: A combine.
Girl: What's that?


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many years ago I headed out delivering a L gleaner hydro. While driving and looking over the cab I noticed a snake skin remnant. A few minutes later something RAN UP MY PANTS LEG. I grabbed the perpetrator in a death grip. Now think a minute - I have one hand on gawd knows what in my britches - one hand on a steering wheel trying not to wreck at 20 plus MPH - and no way to slow down.   Finally I bent over and grabbed the steering wheel in my teeth and searched for the hydro handle or throttle with my left hand almost choking myself in the process. Jerking back on the hydro caused the old gal to nose dive over and almost dislocating my lower jaw in the process. Never the less I did manage to get it centered, hobbled out of the cab and got lower half naked in view of everyone passing on US 54 Paris Tn. It was a mouse. Originally probably 1.5" by 4 " - it was now .25" X 8" with its tongue and eyeballs hangin out - one has amazing strength when the adrenalin downloads in a panic. It is also amazing the amount of mouse pee one of these little critters can contain - or at lease that's how I explained the dark spot in my britches... it is also amazing how traffic backs up in a normally low traveled road...

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I laughed through the whole story tbran LOL and whew!

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I am sorry to hear of you plight, but I did laugh so hard, the candy I was eating nearly came out my nose!!

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lol...better you than me! whew! glad it wasn't the snake either! I would have exited the cab!
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Originally posted by Lonn Lonn wrote:

I laughed through the whole story tbran LOL and whew!


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I laughed through the whole thing too!!

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Originally posted by CrestonM CrestonM wrote:


Originally posted by CALEBnOK CALEBnOK wrote:

C2 with aftermarket road box! 30plus haha. My dad says you better have the header on or it gets to bouncing!


Wow! Aftermarket road box???? Never heard of one! Is that at your place, or at the ranch?



Still can't imagine 30+ on a Gleaner....Wow!


It would be out there at the ranch if that combine is still around. They ran 4 C2's on propane in the 60's and 70's and still have 2. My dad told me it was scary to road. I'll have to ask my uncle about it to see what brand it was. I imagine it was something like a Behler overdrive (spelling?)
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Tbran, I can appreciate the plight you were in. PS: Uncertain why, but I did not laugh. Could be a similar incident in my earlier years also kicked in.
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