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I have casting for D-Series fender mount lights being made and hope to have at Florida show. I have some D10-D12 hoods being made also. I gave up on D14 fenders because of the cost. Have the quote and vendor to make them, Just need a front man. David
 
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Pick something that is most wanted .spend your time to find out 100% what it would take from start to finsh (still not knowing what the finshed product will be like).Set the price then see how many are iterested ( and would MAYBE give a deposit ,then you would know just what to reman. .
Know a few guy's that tryed this and 98% said it was TOO MUCH . Thought for the Day
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I have new one piece manifolds that fit all 426 heads. 618/401/2386 Dan
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Originally posted by Tracy Martin TN Tracy Martin TN wrote:

I reproduce several of the AC parts. There are plenty that need reproducing. The problem is cost, cost, cost. It is extremely hard to reproduce a low volume item and recoup your tooling cost. I know, I have tried, it is tough. Currently making the grill guard for D15-17 and have alot tied up in tooling. These look like originals that were produced in the 60's, not an AC item but aftermarket. Just about done with the early D10-12 and series III factory grill guards.Having interest in an item helps, but having a buyer is much better. I might add also, making it as close to original helps. Sometimes an improvement was needed and I try to incorporate it into the reproduction if it doesn't detract from functionality.Money is tight, and people tend to hang on to it.HTH Tracy Martin
 
 
You aint kiddin. Wish I could make a lot more parts.  Tooling costs are killer. The last part I made was the little grain elevator cup. $2K in tooling. Thats considered a bargain.
Need to sell a lot of cups to make that up.
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Allis did make the fenders and hoods from and outside source...talk to a guy that worked a toole and die place in La Crosse, WI. He said allis sent them the forms for all these sheet metal items. Told me that the front shrouds were the hardest to make. Lots of times, he said, that the front shroud would be sent back because of a flaw near the part where the front emblem goes on. Metal wouldnt form right and it would break there. When AC was close to going out of business they took all these molds and presses back.
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Gimmer steering gear box parts and spindles for the B. D-19 power steering pump parts. 
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LP carb and regulator kits.
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 I agree on small D series fenders,  We  have  the  D17 & D19  fenders, have  sold a few and  the ones i stock look fine to me.
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Steering gear boxes for the CA, C, and B. They were not the best design to start with. I see there is a guy on Ebay that rebuilds steering boxes for JD and Cub Cadet garden tractors. Last I looked he was wanting about $175 for a rebuilt one.

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A new grill for 180/190/210's that looks like the original, made of metal, and the lower screen for a 210.
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Hydraulic components for the G would be great.
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I wish somebody made rims like the originals. The One I got, the rails weren't centered to begin with and it was too tight to spin the hub even with a hammer. some grinder time made it work but still, I'm glad I wouldn't use it for plowing because the wheel would be in the wrong spot. Kind of aggrivating. I'm definately fixing the old one this spring and sticking it back on...
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Originally posted by Tony.Or Tony.Or wrote:

 I agree on small D series fenders,  We  have  the  D17 & D19  fenders, have  sold a few and  the ones i stock look fine to me.
  Tony    www.tonystractors.com

Tony, assuming that the bottom of the brace where the bolt goes is the same as the D-10, would it be possible to get just some braces? They are the first part to rust out.

Dusty
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Seems there is also a large industry now springing up in far east reproducing old motorcycle parts for British motorcycles.  Seen a NOS gas tank for Matchless cycle sell for $950 and a NOS  Norton tank go for $1200 , you can now buy reproductions of those tanks for $240 and $285 in chrome plated form. 
 Might pay for someone to see what these companies would charge to reproduce a tractor gas tank or fender. I know couple of the outfits are looking for pattern tanks to copy for other models so they can duplicate.
 Unsure if there are more tractor restorers or old motorcycle restorers out there .
I just bought a front disc brake rotor for Norton for $97 , made in India, as the ones said to be NOS from England are $350 and the so called good one i bought on E-bay for $40 turned out to be a worn out piece from a scrap pile behind someones shop.


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Is someone decides they want to stamp out Gas tanks for the B's and C's I would like to quote on the dies.  It would take at least two. I would guess 150,000 each.  
 
I would guess that you would not live long enough to get a return on your investment.
 
This mold was over 100,000 several years ago and it has less steel than a gas tank die would take.
 
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How about casting new 426 blocks that would allow them to be bored and stroked more.Also could do modern 4 valve heads. maybe stronger bottom end too.
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How about an unstyled WC radiator with the ALLIS-CHALMERS stamped into it. The only radiators I can find are for styled ones.
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governor weights for d-17 and power steering pump shaft
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Ted, I believe that Michael Crowe has one of those depth stops, He is the only guy I know that has one.
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Ted, I think that Mike Crowe has one of those depth stops, but he seems to be the only guy I know that has one. Rich
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Unstyled WC hood looks like it would be easy but never seen one reproduced.   More complex dies like the fuel tanks probably would not pay,  better to have a reman business repairing the old ones I guess.

I have thought of making the cloth parts like seat covers and repro umbrellas would be neat.  At the Renfro Valley show there were some old umbreallas.   I also remember when plain canvas pan seat covers were available at every hardware store,  nothin fancy.
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I'll have to take a good look at an unstyled WC next week at the GOTO. I might be able to make them. Anything that does not have compound curves.

I believe when industry figured out how to stamp sheet metal is when the styled tractors came out.

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How about the plastic cab tops for the 7030, 7050, and early 7040, 7060 and 80 with the flasher lights in the top??  I'm getting one made for my 7030, and thought while I'm at it I'd get a few more made..  any interest??  PM me would be best.   -Wes
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B Spindles, B Gemmer gear box parts, D-series power steering pump parts and D-series distributor tach drive gear.
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I would agree, the B/C/CA gas tanks would be a good mover for sure if a good quality one can be manufactured! But then again, any fuel tank for the early model tractors would be a big hit I think. Fenders also I think would be a big hit no matter what model they would be for. There are some repro's out there for the B/C/CA's and some of the other model tractors, but the quality is a bit on the looow side. BUT, somethin' is better than nothin'.....
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MB, I think it's more realistic and more cost effective for B spindles that have been rebuilt. The spindle itself is usually good, it's the upright portion that wears. If an enterprising machinist would build them up, turn them to spec, and then sell them with a "core charge" for a good rebuildable pair in return, I think they'd do pretty well.
 
Maybe Charlie Tucker will offer a thought here. He's got the background to know if this would make sense.
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Ted and Dustin, that manual depth adjuster is shown in both the Oxnard blade book and dirt scoop book.  I found a complete assembly in Sacremento, CA several years ago.  I can take some pics if you want me to.  Michael

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Dick L mentioned that it would take at least 2 molds to make the B/C/CA gas tanks? Where is the difference between the top and the bottom? The little indent in the CA type tank could be stamped seperately after formation. Also I don't think they have to be exact repros. Functional but yet visually correct. I believe the demand for a tank that holds gas is bigger than the demand for the few guys that will do a exact restoration.
Ideally you would make a tank with B style mounting ears underneath and the CA dent in the bottom. That way they would fit almost every B/C/CA tractor and 125 power unit in existence.
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For anyone who thinks something should be or would like to see something made YOu should check into it your self just to see what it takes in time and money to do so.Then alot of ?'s would be answered right then and there ,this is why.If you put alot of money out to have something made you need a little return on your money.
,unless you have alot of money to burn for a sale on items witch, most would not pay the price to have one.Just my 2 cents . Another good reason good tractors get parted out !
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I think the 125 PU's are all square tanks.
 
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