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Posted: 15 hours 46 minutes ago at 7:48am |
I have ordered but not yet received a "Pat's" quick hitch for my tractor. It is a Cat II setup but everything I have is Cat I. I have plenty of bushings and replacements are cheap enough should any become lost, etc. I'm hoping this will make the tractor more useful than already is as I only mow with a 72" RD-7200 Woods finish mower, but have recently purchased a new rototiller, and 60gl Demco three point sprayer. Having the live PTO makes this tractor so much more usable than my older Ford branded Shibaura tractor although I'm keeping it also. I never realized how inconvenient the transmission operated PTO was......
Probably preaching to the choir talking about this so looking at things to watch out for, or make it more useful. Should I consider a hydraulic top link as instance? I have a single hydraulic remote available at the rear that is not detented and snaps back to neutral when the handle is released. I need to check if this remote is only powered one way, or both as never have used it. This remote I plan to use to operate a skid mount winch setup for dragging smaller logs up hills on our property. I may install detents, but in winching applications, this is not always a good thing to do. I don't farm so have no real needs other than the PTO for driving things like the post hole auger, mower deck, sprayer, and now the tiller. Hopefully this hitch setup will ease changing from one implement to another much easier.
Just looking for general input from those using this type hitch setup as I have no experience.
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Posted: 15 hours 33 minutes ago at 8:01am |
fyi
I'd install (glue ?) the bushings on every implement
I bought and bolted a top link onto all my 3PH implements. That way,install and use, no turning the top link a zillion turns every time.
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Posted: 15 hours 4 minutes ago at 8:30am |
Thanks, I like to think myself a compentent welder and was planning on affixing the bushings permanent. Doesn't seem I'm out of line there as the pins are readily replaceable should that be needed.
Twisting that top link; that was the reason for asking about the hydraulic top link. I know that gets old fast. I have a Cat II tractor end and the Cat I on all the implements of the two top links I have. We must think alike as I purchased the second top link leaving it on the auger for this very reason.
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Posted: 14 hours 47 minutes ago at 8:47am |
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Are the lower link connections adjustable for width? The Cat I width is 26" whereas the Cat II width is 31".
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Posted: 14 hours 40 minutes ago at 8:54am |
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Yes, they are adjustable for width. It has those links for pins to drop in to keep the arms spread. I want to say the ball ends have 1.125" diameter holes in them?
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Posted: 14 hours 27 minutes ago at 9:07am |
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Cat II quick hitch more than likely won't work with Cat I implements. It's not just the pin size, it's the spacing between the pins.
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Posted: 12 hours 19 minutes ago at 11:15am |
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Cat II quick hitch more than likely won't work with Cat I implements. It's not just the pin size, it's the spacing between the pins. |
A Pat's hitch is not a weldment as most are. It's a modification to the lower lift arms.
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Posted: 8 hours 30 minutes ago at 3:04pm |
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I looked up his product. His quick-hitch devices will move your load farther back, which will require your top link to be longer. Hopefully it has enough threads to be able to extend that much more. If not, I might fabricate an extension for each implement you use to solve this issue. The extension could be welded, but I might prefer it is bolted so it could be removed if needed, not making it permanent. Also, depending on the load you are lifting, more tractor front end weight may be needed because your load looks like it will be 4 to 6 inches farther back.
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Posted: 4 hours 43 minutes ago at 6:51pm |
Hi Doc. I thought these were more popular than apparently are. They do move the load back about four inches and a new pin runs through the existing ball sockets on the arms. These new pins remain in place via cotter, or hitch pins and keep the sockets on the arms. the "U" bolts go around the body and lower part of the lifting arms locking the unit in place rigid. The hitch attaches, and detaches quickly like the popular weldment types with the spring loaded swinging latches in a "gullet" which grab around the implement pin. I've not known anyone to have any problems with an existing top link not being long enough myself, but have never seen another Cat II type. Seen a few Cat I on small utility type tractors but always idle. They seem to be popular around here.
Here is an Amazon link to a Cat I style which is just a bit physically smaller than what I have ordered. I've seen the lesser expensive aftermarket offerings also and my suggestion is to stay with the original. Quality is but a single reason.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00U00AUNW/?_encoding=UTF8&_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00U00AUNW&ref_=sxts_sparkle_sbv&ref_=sbx_be_s_sparkle_ssd_vid&qid=1742168353&pd_rd_w=hhW9a&content-id=amzn1.sym.8591358d-1345-4efd-9d50-5bd4e69cd942%3Aamzn1.sym.8591358d-1345-4efd-9d50-5bd4e69cd942&pf_rd_p=8591358d-1345-4efd-9d50-5bd4e69cd942&pf_rd_r=51HHFFXR9KH1MJESB3EX&pd_rd_wg=GOJDB&pd_rd_r=a9c6ed51-f498-4727-93c5-8c528c287311
My tractor is a White 2-55. I have three 75# weights on the front already which are not needed in my application, but they are there and don't hurt anything. Tractor is heavy enough on the steer axle without them for the ditch mowing I do, but I've not removed them. The little Ford will "Wheelie" coming out of the ditches with the mower deck so I hung 180# of weights on it to counter this effect. The Ford, (Shibaura) is in the background. 
Edited by Codger - 4 hours 41 minutes ago at 6:53pm
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Posted: 4 hours 38 minutes ago at 6:56pm |
Here is the Cat II variant on Amazon:
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