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Topic: Build-a-rim
Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Subject: Build-a-rim
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2014 at 8:01pm
Here is a quick overview of hiw I put 38's on my WC.

I started with flat slat spoke rims off a Farmall F20. Bolt pattern is the same. F&H 6 bolts were as well.


I started with cutting the 36" outer rims off the centers leaving the spokes as long as possible.

Next I ground amd cleaned all the spoke ends. (I should have taken more pics)

I unmounted the tires and tubes from my new rims.

I found a nice flat spot on my shop floor and laid the center in the rim.


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Central PA Allis Express
1934 WC254
1945 WF
1945 WC135755
1951 WD68085
1953 WD45-150217
1957 WD45D-230744D
B110



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Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2014 at 8:07pm
This is where an extra set of hands is great. I did some figuring on my offset because I wanted the keep the tires in tight for two reasons...one, its better for pulling and two, so it fit my trailer. 3 7/8 from the face of the center hub to the first rib on my new rim was just right. They're off a Farmall M. Any rim will work with some figuring.

After figuring the offset we found some things to set the center on to get it to stay at height....a WD wheel weight and a front tire/wheel off a WC worked well. After that we found true center. Then we took each side and took 4 opposite spokes and set height and tacked each in place. The spokes were obviously short going from a 36 to a 38 so I took 1/4 strap steel and made spoke extensions.

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Central PA Allis Express
1934 WC254
1945 WF
1945 WC135755
1951 WD68085
1953 WD45-150217
1957 WD45D-230744D
B110


Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2014 at 8:13pm
I'll post pics when I'm done explaining. ..anyways. ...after doing this we mounted the rims to the tractor with a tire on it to make sure we weren't too narrow and had clearance. Then took the tire off again. Spun the rim while measuring from the frame rail as an equal point to make sure we were running true (glad I did this as one outer rim was bent so we adjusted it by vutting two spokes loose and moving them out...it runs true but if someone is paying attention they'll notice the spokes are in different spots...it functions right is all I care. After all was straight and true it was time to weld weld weld. After doing all the outers I trimmed the extensions amd blended them them flipped and welded the backs. I smoothed edges with a flap disc and mounted them up....voila' 38's on the WC. Then I had to build new wheelie bars and weight bars and an adjustable hitch but that's another story lol...any questions feel free to ask.

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Central PA Allis Express
1934 WC254
1945 WF
1945 WC135755
1951 WD68085
1953 WD45-150217
1957 WD45D-230744D
B110


Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2014 at 8:15pm
Mocked up with a tire on (stupid me didn't think to take pics until this point)

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Central PA Allis Express
1934 WC254
1945 WF
1945 WC135755
1951 WD68085
1953 WD45-150217
1957 WD45D-230744D
B110


Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2014 at 8:19pm
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Central PA Allis Express
1934 WC254
1945 WF
1945 WC135755
1951 WD68085
1953 WD45-150217
1957 WD45D-230744D
B110


Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2014 at 8:26pm
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Central PA Allis Express
1934 WC254
1945 WF
1945 WC135755
1951 WD68085
1953 WD45-150217
1957 WD45D-230744D
B110


Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2014 at 8:27pm
^^^^^^had a little oops during the project. ..I strongly recommend skipping that step.


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Central PA Allis Express
1934 WC254
1945 WF
1945 WC135755
1951 WD68085
1953 WD45-150217
1957 WD45D-230744D
B110


Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2014 at 8:46pm
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Central PA Allis Express
1934 WC254
1945 WF
1945 WC135755
1951 WD68085
1953 WD45-150217
1957 WD45D-230744D
B110


Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2014 at 8:47pm
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Central PA Allis Express
1934 WC254
1945 WF
1945 WC135755
1951 WD68085
1953 WD45-150217
1957 WD45D-230744D
B110


Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 23 Aug 2014 at 9:20pm
And thats my old hitch and wheelie bars on there. I'll have to get a final pic of the new ones.

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Central PA Allis Express
1934 WC254
1945 WF
1945 WC135755
1951 WD68085
1953 WD45-150217
1957 WD45D-230744D
B110


Posted By: alan-nj
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2014 at 2:25pm
benny......you shud have paid attention to my post last winter....you know that i could have recommended a good welder to make 38's...........NOT...


Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2014 at 2:30pm
I do my own for just that reason lol If it breaks I can only blame myself

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Central PA Allis Express
1934 WC254
1945 WF
1945 WC135755
1951 WD68085
1953 WD45-150217
1957 WD45D-230744D
B110


Posted By: nborga87
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2014 at 10:53pm
Those look nice! How much do those f20 centers weigh?


Posted By: BennyLumpkin
Date Posted: 27 Aug 2014 at 6:54am
I didn't have a way to weigh them but I'd guess rim and center to be 120#

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Central PA Allis Express
1934 WC254
1945 WF
1945 WC135755
1951 WD68085
1953 WD45-150217
1957 WD45D-230744D
B110



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