D-Patrol
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Topic: D-Patrol
Posted By: D-Patrol
Subject: D-Patrol
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2014 at 3:39pm
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I am a new member, converting from the Dark Side (John Deere) so don't tell my brother. Anyway, just happened by a neighbors yard recently and he had (I now own it) a very nice looking little roadgrader sitting amongst his John Deere and assorted International tractors...! She hadn't been run in 3-4 years... After a bit of piddling and wrenching, she started right up. I called Tony and he has been very helpful in information and advice. Thank you Tony! I'm seeking the teeth or a pattern of the teeth for the scarifier (I believe that's how it's spelled). My nephew runs a metal shop, so if I could get the demensions, I believe that's all I would need. Can any of you help me out? I currently live in Vilonia, AR (30 miles North of Little Rock) and also have farm land in South Dakota. I'm thinking that is where she will end up, once the engine is overhauled etc.... Thank you for your assistance..! MKC
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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2014 at 6:36pm
| You might want to try agrisupply.com, I found scarifier teeth for my DD special, so close to original as to be nearly identical. |
Posted By: Tony.Or
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2014 at 7:26pm
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Mike !! Did you try the 2 places I gave you for ripper teeth?? Tony ------------- http://www.tonystractors.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.tonystractors.com |
Posted By: D-Patrol
Date Posted: 20 Mar 2014 at 10:37pm
| Thank you for responding ... Can u tell me the demensions of the teeth u ordered or the part number??? Mkc |
Posted By: D-Patrol
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2014 at 6:47pm
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DIYDave... I am new to AC. Would those be the same as for my D Roadgrader? Would you happen to have the demensions or specs on the teeth I need for my D? Thank you, mkc
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Posted By: DonBC
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2014 at 11:32am
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D is the gas model and DD is the same machine but with the diesel engine. If you have the serial number I can tell you what year your grader is. ------------- Jack of all trades, master of none |
Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 25 Mar 2014 at 7:02pm
I don't have them handy, right now, suggest you go to Agrisupply.com, and look at what they have now, the DD took a tooth that has less of a curve, than your standard landscape box. A coupla years intervening, might also have changed what they have in stock...
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D-Patrol wrote:Posted By: D-Patrol
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2014 at 12:24am
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Hi... I am going to be traveling cross-country from Arkansas to Washington DC next week. Driving, so maybe I'll have an opportunity to stop along the way at some farm and home joints. We also have TSC and Campbell Supply here in Arkansas and South Dakota.... so they may have something. Whilst sitting in the motel room at nite, my have a minute or two to look up AgriSupply....! I was hoping someone might have a tooth to copy... Maybe I should have been more specific in the thread topic. mkc
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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2014 at 5:49am
| Agrisupply has a location, in Petersburg, Va, off of 95, at wagner rd. |
Posted By: D-Patrol
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2014 at 8:15pm
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Thank you..... I will have to check to see if that is close to Herndon, VA.... which is where I'm going to be all week. In addition to needing the teeth, I also need the control handle/lever.... which is the middle one on the spool. Don't know if that makes sense. Unfortunately when the removed the hoses from the digger hyd cylinders and plugged them, they also removed the control handle. Also unfortunately, they left the rams extened which means they have rust pitting, so they may have to be replaced. Do you know the weight of this roadgrader?? mkc
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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2014 at 5:43am
| Off the top of my head, I'd say around 8000 lbs. |
Posted By: DonBC
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2014 at 11:22am
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This seems as if it is a D grader with most of the options so the weight may be closer to !0,000 lbs. I replaced a 2 spool valve with a 4 spool valve but I may have scrapped it along with the handles. I will check. I am a a long distance from you but sending a couple of handles may not cost that much. It should be a lot cheaper to re-chrome the rams than replace them. ------------- Jack of all trades, master of none |
Posted By: Ross D.
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2014 at 11:49am
Hi. I am a little confused about which grader you actually have. You mention a 'Patrol' grader; but, I am assuming by the various conversations, that it is really a 'D' road grader. Do you have any pictures that you can post? I have a copy of a scarifier tooth that I had borrowed off a D grader in the Peterborough area. I made a wooden copy that I had hoped to get a pattern from. I hope to find some, or get them made locally. If you need measurements, I can get them when I get home from FL. about the middle of April.Please post some pictures. Ross.
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Posted By: timothy s
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2014 at 12:17pm
| Isnt she a beautipful grader. If you can i am rebuilding a d motor( 62 yr) and i took the flywheel off without marking it and my book dozent tell me how to put it back. where do i find a complete shop man. |
Posted By: Tony.Or
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2014 at 1:00pm
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Timothy !! I have manuals Tony ------------- http://www.tonystractors.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.tonystractors.com |
Posted By: Ages Cat
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2014 at 4:48pm
| My compliments to the person who restored the pictured grader. Very nice. |
Posted By: timothy s
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2014 at 8:43pm
| Tony can you tell mehow to line up the fly wheel |
Posted By: timothy s
Date Posted: 28 Mar 2014 at 8:45pm
| mailto:%20" rel="nofollow - is this personal to you because i didnt what to post my # |
Posted By: rwhendrix
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 8:30am
| Awesome grader! I have wanted a small grader this size for a long time. |
Posted By: Ross D.
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 9:11am
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Good morning. On my want list is to obtain the scarifier teeth and to install the original styled power steering. We have acquired the power steering assy. and are currently installing it. If you need the tooth assy. measurements, let me know and I will be able to send them to you. Here is a picture of the 'D Special' working. This is Calvin Schmidt building his new driveway. The Hi/Low tranny sure helps with a 66% reduction in the ground speed. Lots of control with the engine working at the proper RPM's. |
Posted By: Ross D.
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 9:12am
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Posted By: D-Patrol
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 1:23pm
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I am going to attempt to load some pictures after I finish this note to all of you. First, the patrol pictured here is "really cool" and well done!!!!! Congratulations!! I certainly didn't mean to mislead by probably using the wrong terminology. I'm TDY traveling for work today so most of this is from memory. My serial number is D4555 which Tony said is a 1957 model I believe. It has been sitting for years with 422 hours on the hour meter (which I realize is probably a new meter). Point is, it hasn't' had much recent use. I'm a JD guy but this little AC was just calling me and the price was right. Where I'm from (Carthage, South Dakota), we call road-graders Patrols.... It has no breather filter assembly so I don't know how many hours of dirt sucking use it's had. The motor runs but smokes a lot. I'm going to get her home when I get back from DC and my son and I will pull the motor and then we'll take it up to MO for a complete overhaul. Plan is to completely restore to functional useable condition. All my antique machines are workers also. I don't have any "Hanger Queens".... Please don't interpet that comment in the wrong way. We each have our needs and to "each his own". So.... I am going to upload pictures now. More later...!
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Posted By: D-Patrol
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 1:26pm
 The day I found her....!
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Posted By: D-Patrol
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 1:29pm
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Posted By: D-Patrol
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 1:31pm
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Posted By: D-Patrol
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 1:33pm
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Posted By: D-Patrol
Date Posted: 29 Mar 2014 at 1:34pm
| Here are four pictures. I'm driving to DC so will be off-line till sometime Monday....! Have a great weekend! mkc |
Posted By: DonBC
Date Posted: 30 Mar 2014 at 1:45pm
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A very nice clean looking machine and it doesn't show any signs of abuse such as repairs to cracks in the pipe frame. It looks so good that the hour meter may be correct. Now I don't want argue with Tony as he is a good parts supplier for my D grader but my S/N list indicates that it is a 1955, not that there were any real changes between years. My parts book starts for s/n's 5425 and up so there must have been some changes then such as going from the G226 engine of the WD45 tractor to the G226 engine of the D17 farm tractor. Tony has great prices for engine kits. The missing air cleaner is odd. My grader originally had the air cleaner fastened to a bracket that was welded to the corner of the gas tank about where the strap is located on your picture. Apparently because of vibration a crack developed on the gas tank in the corner at the bracket. They sealed the tank with what appears to be brazing and then crudely welded a piece of angle iron onto the frame and mounted the air cleaner to it. When I got my grader the hose between the carburetor and the air cleaner was missing and the air cleaner cup was solid dirt. My engine needs a rebuild possibly because of this. It smokes a bit, fouls a couple of the plugs now and then, uses some oil and everyone that has to work downwind of it bitches about the smell of burning oil but it still has enough power to spin the wheels at a fast idle when working. Good luck with your grader keep us posted on your progress. BTW across the border into Saskatchewan they were often refered to as maintainers. ------------- Jack of all trades, master of none |
Posted By: D-Patrol
Date Posted: 31 Mar 2014 at 1:08pm
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Thank you.... She is very clean! I have not found a visib le crack yet....! That was one of the compelling reasons to purchase her. She's just "one sweet machine"!! If you happen to run across a scarifier tooth.... I would love to get measurements or pictures....! We also call them "maintainers" in South Dakota. I guess my military background leads me more to call them Patrols... And I remember my Father always called them Patrols.... which was probably a result of his service in WWII. I can't really tell what year or serial number it is. I am in DC today! Have a great day!! mkc
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Posted By: Ross D.
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2014 at 12:44pm
Hi. Here is a picture of the 'D' grader from which I got the scarifier tooth sample. I hope you can see them. Ross.
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Posted By: D-Patrol
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2014 at 2:50pm
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Ross - Would you please email this picture to mailto:Michaelkclites@hotmail.com" rel="nofollow - Michaelkclites@hotmail.com . I cannot forward it whilst using a government computer. I can show this to my Nephew who runs a machine shop and by giving him known measurements from the Patrol, he will cut teeth on his "whipper snapper" geewhiz cutting machine while you and I are thinking about it.... LOL..... Thank you so much! That's a great looking Maintainer.... what year and motor....! Do you use her a lot...???? Michael
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Posted By: D-Patrol
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2014 at 9:11pm
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Ross, I posted a reply earilier today but it didn't stick. If you would, please send this picture to mailto:michaelkclites@hotmail.com" rel="nofollow - michaelkclites@hotmail.com . My nephew, who runs a machine shop can take known measurements and extrapolate the scarifier measurements. I am in DC tonite, watching TV about the Fort Hood killings sadly..... Michael
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Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2014 at 10:17pm
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Michael looks like you have found some good help over here. Call me when you get ready.
Don ------------- 3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep. |
Posted By: Ross D.
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2014 at 8:47am
| Good morning Michael. Please be patient as I can send information on the tooth that I copied. I will be able to send a proper picture and the measurements, when I get back from FL., about the middle of this month. Ross. |
Posted By: david s
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2014 at 1:40am
| if you are looking for a dd diesel i am rebuilding one almost finished let me know david s in la |
Posted By: timothy s
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2014 at 5:41pm
| twhere do i find a temp. gage |
Posted By: timothy s
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2014 at 5:52pm
| i see i need to put more info. It is a model d grader and the gauge goes in to the radiator. |
Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 07 Apr 2014 at 6:14pm
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You might try Tony Carbugh at 503-767-3660 ------------- 3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep. |
Posted By: D-Patrol
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2014 at 11:05am
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Hi Ross..... Thank you so much....! It's been so busy I'd lost track of you and your willingness to send me the specs/drawing, etc.....! I am waiting impatiently.....! LOL... Enjoy your time in FL! My daughter lives in Fort Walton Beach... and she loves it....! Michael
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Posted By: Ross D.
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2014 at 10:02am
Hi Michael. I hope these pictures are clear enough. Let me know. The 'D' grader works good on maintaining this one KM laneway. Ross.   
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Posted By: Ross D.
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2014 at 10:07am
| Hi again. I am sorry about posting such big pictures, and some upside down. I am still trying to learn this process. Ross. |
Posted By: Ross D.
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2014 at 1:57pm
| Michael. This is a 1967 'D' grader 'Special'. It was made with all the options on it ,except for power steering. We are installing the original power steering style at Calvin Schmidt's shop. It has been a long, expensive process trying to get all the components. This unit came with the correct cab, but I wanted it to be an 'open station'. It has the drop down transmission, four wheel hyd. brakes, emergency parking brake and should have the D17 gas engine. 12 ft. blade with side shifting. Tilt front wheels. Scarifier. New front tires. Since this unit is stored at Calvin's, he gets to play with it periodically. |
Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2014 at 5:26pm
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I have to get some use out of the 'D' special to pay for the storage !!!!!! ------------- Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed |
Posted By: D-Patrol
Date Posted: 04 May 2014 at 9:32pm
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Hello All, I have been up in South Dakota for the past 3-4 and didn't catch your pictures until tonite. Thank you so much. I came home to a town which is basicaly destroyed. Vilonia, Arkansas was literally demolished. We have 11 dead now. Several I knew. You cannot drive through town without crying...! Looking at the pictures just isn't the same as seeing it personally. If possible, could you send them (your pictures) to my hotmail address at mailto:michaelkclites@hotmail.com" rel="nofollow - michaelkclites@hotmail.com . That would save me trying to get them off this web site. I can then send them to my shop for fabrication. They appear to be simple and fairly straightforward. You have a wonderful looking Patrol. Perhaps someday mine will look the same. Thank you so much. Michael
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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 05 May 2014 at 6:15am
| My prayers are with you, D-Patrol, just saw this on utube: http://www.arkansasmatters.com/story/d/story/goodbye-mama-tornado-victim-sends-final-text/22701/AyBEFwuKg0S6ZRowbBll5Q" rel="nofollow - http://www.arkansasmatters.com/story/d/story/goodbye-mama-tornado-victim-sends-final-text/22701/AyBEFwuKg0S6ZRowbBll5Q |