Looks like new name is CNH Global N V

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Topic: Looks like new name is CNH Global N V

Posted By: DMiller
Subject: Looks like new name is CNH Global N V
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2013 at 4:57pm

http://www.zacks.com/stock/news/101153/CNH-Global-to-be-Renamed-Post-Merger

AGCO will probably discontinue as a name brand, CNH will most likely become the entire line of varieties. I just wonder how much already limited machinery components will discontinue.

Kubota is named in the article as a brand in the system.

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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2013 at 6:43pm

This renaming has nothing to do with AGCO. AGCO has nothing to do with CNH Global.

"Currently, Fiat Industrial has 88% ownership stake in CNH Global. Earlier in Nov 2012, the company inked a definitive merger agreement to merge the businesses of both Fiat Industrial and CNH Global to form a separate company, organized under the laws of the Netherlands and listed on the New York Stock Exchange."
AGCO did say they would be interested in buying CNH from Fiat a couple years ago but they won't be buying it now that Fiat merged the industrial parts to form CNH Global.
http://www.zacks.com/stock/news/101153/CNH-Global-to-be-Renamed-Post-Merger" rel="nofollow - http://www.zacks.com/stock/news/101153/CNH-Global-to-be-Renamed-Post-Merger

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Posted By: Unit3
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2013 at 6:44pm

Are you saying that AGCO has been bought out, did AGCO buy CNH?

Posted By: wjohn
Date Posted: 17 Dec 2013 at 9:43pm

No. CNH was just reorganized.

The bottom of the article mentions AGCO as being another "notable company in the industry." They are separate companies.

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Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2013 at 10:27am

Fiat as a parent Co of many lines in both Ag and Construction has combined and renamed the parts of the organization.

Fiat-Allis as well as Ford line of construction is now New Holland while Case is still it's own line but under the same company direction as part of the group of Fiat.

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Posted By: Ian Beale
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2013 at 2:09pm

This thread at Red Power has been going for a while

Future of CNHI (CaseNewHollandInternational)???

http://www.redpowermagazine.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=83797" rel="nofollow - http://www.redpowermagazine.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=83797

Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2013 at 4:54pm

I stand corrected, did not realize that AGCO had bought away from the partial partnership quite a while ago.

Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2013 at 4:59pm

With that in mind, I wonder why AGCO never went back into small heavy equipment, as the farm use of these machines seemed greater than the industrial toward the end of Allis Commercial. Are not many small scale dozers or loaders beyond Deere and they are not so hot as far as I have seen, high priced as well.

Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2013 at 6:52pm

Deere sells the crap out of them, im working along I270 and trucks are rolling thru with alot of yellow Deeres of all sizes

Posted By: Ian Beale
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2013 at 7:32pm

Here in Oz the smaller Fiat ag crawlers are about the only ones in that class with readily available spares. Very popular in the hobby farm area and seem never to be advertised for long.

Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2013 at 9:20pm

With the rest of AC Industrial in was sold off to Ingersol Rand / and a few others so the fork truck and some of the loaders ended up ?

There is only so much market on small track machines as the skid loader segment has taken much of the market now . Tracked skid steer is a big industry now with all the mfg having a machine out there , and skid steer have went from power scoop shovel to small traxcavators. Also the small and medium excavators have replaced much of the tracked loader market for work in digging and loading jobs.

4 W drive or assist TLB machines have also filled many of the niches where small track loaders were used.

I can load a 12/14 yard truck twice as fast with my 715B TLB than it takes me with my HD5G as long is it's not in soft sand.

Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2013 at 4:46pm

AGCO is missing a major market by not selling light industrial machinery, small trackhoes, skid steers, extended reach forklifts, etc. etc. I wonder if there isn't some unpublished agreement to not compete with Cat?

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Posted By: DougG
Date Posted: 22 Dec 2013 at 6:42am

Fiat is one of the smarter players in todays businesses ; they are in about everything and always buying the good deals!