Grader, what model?
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Topic: Grader, what model?
Posted By: truckerfarmer
Subject: Grader, what model?
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2013 at 10:55pm
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My boss just bought an old Allis grader. All he knows it's an Allis and it's a gas engine. Got these casting #s off the block. 3F 3E AM3853-6 Don't know if this will help. I'm just guessing, but I think it's a 45. It has the pipe frame out front. The original sheet metal is missing. Someone built a cab and different hood for it. Didn't get any manuals for it. Would appreciate any help we can get. |
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Posted By: Ian Beale
Date Posted: 23 Sep 2013 at 11:24pm
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AFIK 45's were only diesel (according to the parts book and service manual).
Might be a D?
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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2013 at 4:49am
| Likely a D. Look on the frame, where you step up, should have a tag, about 4" X 4", with the model and #. Barring that, a picture would help, specially the back half, showing the motor. |
Posted By: truckerfarmer
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2013 at 5:23am
Herein lies the problem. Someone built a cab and engine cover. No original sheet metal left. I will see if I can find the tag. Also, all I have for intternet is my phone, so posting pictures is kinda tough. If it is a D, would that mean it is the same engine as in a WD tractor? There is no plate on the side of the block, so that is why I was guessing at a 45 engine. |
DiyDave wrote:Posted By: truckerfarmer
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2013 at 5:24am
| Is it possible to find manuals for it? |
Posted By: Ian Beale
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2013 at 5:40am
| I might have confused here - the grader I was referring to is the AC 45 - which isn't connected to the WD 45's. It uses a diesel engine similar to a HD 11, and is what Allis reckoned a Cat 12 should have looked like. |
Posted By: Tony.Or
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2013 at 9:32am
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am3853 -# is block casing # for wd45 block. found below mag, raised letters. Tony ------------- http://www.tonystractors.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.tonystractors.com |
Posted By: DonBC
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2013 at 11:40am
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It appears as if it is a D grader with the WD45 gas engine. The earliest one's had the WD engine and the later one's used the D17 gas engine. The serial number tag should be secured to the frame on the right side where you step up onto the grader. The serial number will allow you to find out the year of manufacture ------------- Jack of all trades, master of none |
Posted By: truckerfarmer
Date Posted: 24 Sep 2013 at 9:29pm
That's kinda what I was thinkin. Thanks for the response. Would anyone have some downloadable manuals that we could peruse. |
Posted By: DonBC
Date Posted: 25 Sep 2013 at 12:15am
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The suppliers on this site have manuals. I have the parts book for serial numbers 5425 and up until they changed the frame style. I got a copy of the service manual and operators manual from Tony's Tractors. ------------- Jack of all trades, master of none |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2013 at 12:29am
| by chance, is the cab and cover wood with plexiglass? |
Posted By: truckerfarmer
Date Posted: 07 Oct 2013 at 5:20am
| All steel. Hood is hinged at back to flip open. Will be out to the shop tonight. will try to remember to get a couple pics. I'm not able to post pics, but I could send them to someone if they wanted to post them. |