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Track Shoes

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Topic: Track Shoes

Posted By: DMiller
Subject: Track Shoes
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2013 at 4:33pm

Well I have been planning to add rebar grousers to my old girl for the last few weeks, I have access to some rusted/rusty 5/8" and some 3/4" but would need to buy around 10 sticks of 3/4 to do it the way I feel it needs. Got the shocker when I priced steel, less than a full ton it sells per stick at $41 each, $390/ton I get more than bargained for where I have plenty of leftover but I still have to cut 148 pieces to set to the shoes(two each) which may or may not work well but will be better than what I have not of right now.

Just got a bid from Dura Tuff, SLC UT, $590 for 148 15" precut 1 1/16" tall Rockwell hardened designed for this use 5/8" width at top #6G grousers with $130 freight to get them here. They are really tall at over 1" but are formed with a welding channel on both lower edges and are grousers not re-rod, I am so CONFUSED now.

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Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2013 at 7:41pm

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I used rebar on my HD5G track and welded 2 bars onto each pad, I used 7024 drag rod with a Miller 180A -AC welder .

For a dozer I would look at the pre-formed grouser bar instead , then depending on use of machine of how much height you do need .

On the HD5B I welded 5/8 rebar on top of the single grouser using E70S .035 wire and Argon/CO2 shield gas .

In neither case did I preheat pad or bar. The question comes up what are you going to use the machine for and how much are you going to use it?

I went down to one scrap yard and seen they had a lot of rebar cut offs of the size I needed and in lengths of about 3 ft each , so loaded up what i figured I would need for doing track job - when I scaled out they wanted TWICE the price I could buy new material for from a steel supply for contractors . So after a few words I went and unloaded my prize back to where they had it stacked.

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Posted By: Eric B
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2013 at 11:26pm

More than 10 years ago I went to the rebar place and ordered 5/8" weldable rebar that I welded onto my Cat 931 wide pad machine. They are still very good after this passage of time. I hadn't heard of weldable rebar 'til they said that's what I should have. Buying them pre-cut was very reasonable. I ran the idea by the salesman at the undercarriage place and he poo-pooed the idea right away saying they wouldn't last. No money in it for him...LOL.

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Posted By: DMiller
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2013 at 3:17pm

Thanks guys, Orin I had priced out KK series bar from Crown, $1000 including freight for 20 10' length, no precuts. I have like said some rebar so I may just go that route and add to as needed, was just considering would be like new rails with actual grouser bars and the donors' chains.

Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 15 Aug 2013 at 3:41pm

Laying in the rebar there is almost an natural V where bar meets the pad. After jacking up the truck frame to clear the ground, I used a channel lock clamp on ends of rebar to hold to pad then tack welded each end on one side . So each pad on front idler and back sprocket was in position to weld. Welded on then used come-along to roll track to next set of pads.

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Faith isn't a jump in the dark. It is a walk in the light. Faith is not guessing; it is knowing something.
"Challenges are what make life interesting; overcoming them is what makes life meaningful."