LEROI POWER UNITS
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Topic: LEROI POWER UNITS
Posted By: Nathan
Subject: LEROI POWER UNITS
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 10:55am
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LOCAL GUY HAS TWO OF THE LEROI POWER UNITS THAT HAVE THE MOTOR SIMILAR TO THE WC MOTOR. DONT KNOW WHEN THEY RAN LAST OR IF THEY TURN OVER. WHAT ARE THESE THINGS WORTH HE WONT GIVE ME A PRICE BUT I WANT TO BE FAIR TO HIM. WHAT HAVE YOU GUYS PAID FOR THESE? ------------- 35WC 37WC D-10 D-12 D-14 D-15 D-17series 1 (2)D-17IV D-19 CA RC Unstyled WF GLEANER E 416H 314H 712H 716H |
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Posted By: TedBuiskerN.IL.
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 1:49pm
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Nathan, the early WC's (to the best of my knowledge) had 4cylinder flat head Wakeshua engines in them. If they did use LeRoi engines then I am mistaken. I know that the early B used a flat head Wakeshua engine also. I am certain though that the 6-12 used a flat head LeRoi engine in it. I know where there are a couple of spares that have been purchased incase parts are needed for a 6-12. I don't know what your intentions are with wanting to purchase these engines, but if they were used in the early WC's you still would need to have the correct bell housing. The early WC's and B's had cast bell housings and torgue tubes that were particular to the engine they used. At that time there were no adapter plates to help in installing different engines. I hope this helps, and P.S. - I am posting this under ted's name as he is laying on the couch sick! LOL
Matt Pehl
Davis, IL ------------- Most problems can be solved with the proper application of high explosives. |
Posted By: gary ny
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 2:00pm
| It depends on what your looking to do with them .I bought a power unit a few yrs back that had the d15 engine in it for 150 at an auction the motor was set up but I don t think it would be a big problem getting it running.you can use the leroy motor in the wds wc and the 45s or the 17s if you need to so if they have not run in a while I would not go to much on them I don t think he has anything there that is in that high of demand for most people but if you have a use for them p would try 100 for them each |
Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 2:01pm
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Matt, the Leroi company bought block castings from AC as far as I understand and will bolt into a WC or WD. I can't help you on price Nathan. ------------- -- --- .... .- -- -- .- -.. / .-- .- ... / .- / -- ..- .-. -.. . .-. .. -. --. / -.-. .... .. .-.. -.. / .-. .- .--. .. ... - Wink I am a Russian Bot |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 4:50pm
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I saw a Bantam drag line a few years ago with what I thought was a 45 engine. It had no push rod cover, but it had a fuel pump were the oil filter should be. I looked a little more and found the Leroi plate on the top rear of the block next to the bell housing.
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 5:59pm
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if you find any of the 226 lerio power units I will buy them if priced decent. ------------- people if they don't already know it you can't tell them. quote yogi berra |
Posted By: Cal
Date Posted: 19 Jan 2010 at 6:18pm
| I have a leroi 226 in one of my WDs it went right in. it has no side plate and the dipstick is on the opposit side it came out of a corn chopper. Cal in Ct. |
Posted By: jws3020
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2010 at 9:04am
| we are rebuilding a 226 power unit, have a 226 in a 38 wc that we use for my dad at shows and it is a horse. might try to find another unstyled wc and put it in that tractor. if we do there will be a very nice brass leroi radiator and clutch stand for sale |
Posted By: Zyta
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2010 at 5:42pm
| I just got one a 226 Lerio power unit off a bean picker nice looking unit low hrs not siezed. Has really cool looking intake and exhaust mainfold that appears to be a lot better flowing than the WD & WD45's. I really think this unit would run nice in a 45 or WC. |
Posted By: powertech84
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2010 at 7:01pm
| i have one i'm trying to get running again. There is very little difference between the leroi, and the wc/wd motor. I'd really like to find a couple rods and pistons to put mine back together. Do you know anything about their condition? |
Posted By: Zyta
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2010 at 8:03pm
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The one I have just needs going over and I think it will run fine. These engine have heavier main bearings/crank, better cam and govenor run at higher rpms. Also the combustion chamber is in the head.
Jim
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Posted By: powertech84
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2010 at 8:31pm
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Zyta wrote:Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2010 at 8:47pm
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well i am the one who gave him the info. some lerio 226 engines had a combustion chamber in the head and the gov. weights are heavier which makes them have a stiffer gov spring. The lerio gov spring used with the lighter allis gov will run over 3 grand in rpms. the lerio block that has the combustion chamber head has canted caped 8 inch long rods the flat head version has the allis 7.5 long straight cap rods. I own a complete lerio centaur tractair propane version. It has a six cylinder block and the back two cylinders that feed the 125 cfm have a 5 inch piston. thats how I new a 5 inch sleeve would work in a 226 allis. I am not a expert on them but do own one. ------------- people if they don't already know it you can't tell them. quote yogi berra |
Posted By: powertech84
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2010 at 9:02pm
| if you say so pankey, i'll believe you. You seem to know your stuff. You don't happen to know anyone with some of those leroi 7.5 rods do you? |
Posted By: Zyta
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2010 at 9:36pm
| The guy I got this motor from is into engine building model T engines etc.. and he says the Lerio was the cadalac of engines.. if you compared a (plain 226 AC) not the D17engine versus the Lerio 226. |
Posted By: powertech84
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2010 at 9:53pm
| Its "leroi" guys. Back to the original question of the post. What you pay is entirely subject to the condition, and if it is what you say it is, that being basically a d201, leroi's version of the allis 201, Its value is basically the same as what you'd buy the allis motor for. My suggestion would be if its stuck, offer $200, and known good running condition $600. Then somewhere in between for anything else. Remember i'm baseing this on what you've said about the engines. If they are in fact the engine like mlpankey described, i'm sure they'd be worth more, but otherwise like i said, worth no more than the allis version |
Posted By: mlpankey
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2010 at 6:20am
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yeap a good combustion chamber lerio head . one that had been pressure checked sold for 1200 two years ago. ------------- people if they don't already know it you can't tell them. quote yogi berra |
Posted By: Unstylish
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2010 at 7:33am
| did you ever sell the brass leroi radiator? |