This might be a dumb ?
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Topic: This might be a dumb ?
Posted By: firephight
Subject: This might be a dumb ?
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2013 at 8:00pm
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ok so why do people look for the gleaner E engine to put in a wd wd-45 tractor for pulling? why not just put a d-17 engine in? tractordata .com shows a d-17 has the same bore and stroke as a wd-45 but what gives it the 7.25:1 compresion? Is the head made diffrently? why not just put a d-17 head on a wd-45 block ? I understand they are built a little stronger(d-17 engine) but what makes the gleaner E engine better than the d-17
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2013 at 8:03pm
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Nothing really, unless it is a later model E-3 Gleaner which has even higher (8.0 to 1) compression. Those old combines have often been parked/abandoned and aren't in use anymore. Most any D17 that has a good running engine is still in use. It's that simple.
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Posted By: AaronSEIA
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2013 at 8:18pm
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I've asked the same question and really haven't gotten a good answer. I wonder if some guys aren't running a WC or WD and tossing in the Gleaner engine as a cheap pony upgrade. For getting into internals, the WD block can hold everything the Gleaner engine can (I'm assuming a bit there). The only thing you'd for sure gain is the full pressure lube. AaronSEIA
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Posted By: firephight
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2013 at 8:27pm
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ok so if they are all have the same bore x stroke(226) what gives them all diffrent compresion ratios? what are the casting # to look for in the gleaner E head? I live close to a AC junk yard I guess I need to be on the look out for some heads
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Posted By: YT
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2013 at 8:42pm
nothing to do with head,just had different pistons for more compression resulting to more HP
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2013 at 8:29am
There was a time you could buy a cheap Gleaner engine because so many were being scrapped out. Most of these engines didn't have the hours on them that a tractor of the same era would, so you could just bolt them in and go.
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Posted By: cotncrzy
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2013 at 9:18am
They dont have many hours on them but the conditions they run in are severe, dust, full rpm, etc. A low houred, WELL MAINTAINED one would be sweet, but hard to find in my neck of the woods. The engine block would have the "Z" code at the end of the serial# if it is the late modle EIII I think. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
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C, WD45,WD puller, 185, 200, 7060 Red Belly, 7060 Black Belly,8010, and a R52 Gleaner, AND PROUD OF THEM!
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Posted By: firephight
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2013 at 5:01pm
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I have located a Gleaner E engine and a D-17 engine guess i need to find some block # to look and see if the Gleaner block is one that i should maybe keep my eye on for a donor for my WD-45. any one havwe the block # so i can check it out.
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 15 Jan 2013 at 5:48pm
Either one will bolt in. The Gleaner probably needs a tractor governor to operate right.
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Posted By: cotncrzy
Date Posted: 16 Jan 2013 at 7:16am
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The combine will require a governor modification, installing the linkage arm, it isnt a big deal. Way easier than front cover swap. Just look at the Serial number on the block, After the numbers there will be a letter, I know there is an "m", and a "Z". I have been told the "Z" is the higher compression engine. The carb an that engine works well too. A little modification is required but well worth it.
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C, WD45,WD puller, 185, 200, 7060 Red Belly, 7060 Black Belly,8010, and a R52 Gleaner, AND PROUD OF THEM!
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