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Topic: WOULD U TRADE a WD45 W/LOADER for a D19?
Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Subject: WOULD U TRADE a WD45 W/LOADER for a D19?
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2012 at 3:56pm
If you had the chance to trade a WD45 with loader, which I now have, for a pretty good looking D19, would you do it?   Why, or, why not?

Thanks

Dex


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Posted By: ACFarmer
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2012 at 4:01pm
Depends on the condition of both tractors and what engine is in the 19. If they were in comparable condition I would rather have the 19 myself.

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Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2012 at 4:20pm
Thank you, AC.

I was kind of looking at the D19 having more power, maybe a better 3pt hitch ????  Also, I haven't gone to check it out, been talking with the guy, but it looks to be easier to mount than from behind on the WD45.


Only have had the WD45 for a couple weeks.  Nice paint, not a restore, but nice enough, especially if not too critical up close.   Then, the chance for a D19 came along, read the specs online, seems more power, if needed here on my 11+ pastured acres. Hay, etc.


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Posted By: jlogli
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2012 at 4:28pm
Go with the 19, more power, better looks. Hope it is a diesel.

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Posted By: Dakota Dave
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2012 at 4:40pm
Not if the D19 is Gas. If they are in comparable condition the D19 is a newer more powerfull tractor. has a better ride and power steering. If its beat to death than keep the WD45. Tires will make a huge differance in how good the trade is. I put new tires on my WD45 last year 2K for new rears with new rims. My old rims looked good till I took the tires off.so they needed replacment at the same time.


Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2012 at 5:01pm
Well my first thought is how often do you need a loader, seems like on an acreage it is ALL the time.  I didn't catch if the 19 had a loader.  Since I don't know where you live, the diesel may be an issue for winter activity, they are hard starters in the winter, unless plugged in or a fresh engine.  But all other things being equal, I would take a D19 every day of the week, and twice on Sunday over a WD45.  

FYI, the D19, will have a similar snap coupler set-up, very few had factory 3-point that I know of.


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Posted By: Burgie
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2012 at 5:18pm
I`m surprised that nobody mentioned the Hi-Low Power Director. I`d go with a D Series anytime.

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Posted By: DanWi
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2012 at 5:57pm
Does the guy want your 45? With 11 acres you should almost have a backup, I'd keep the 45 and buy the 19 if the price was right and the tractor was in good shape.


Posted By: PlayGun
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2012 at 7:57pm
I could be wrong but I have been studying the D series tractors pretty hard, and the D-19 is a pretty big stout tractor. And I may be wrong but what I have found, if the D-19 is gas it will be thirsty between 5-6.5 GPH depending on use and the WD under 4 GPH depending on use. But I have to say I love the looks of the D's and the 19 will probably be all you ever need if not more.

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Posted By: patrickmull
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2012 at 8:04pm
i would go with the 19


Posted By: Thad in AR.
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2012 at 8:12pm
giving up a loader even if just a trip bucket would be hard for me to do. Do you need to haul it often? The first thing I'd do is compare tires Then see how the d19 runs and drives and stays in gear and all the d19 checks. As far as looks go d series tractors look good but a wd 45 is in my opinion the one of the best looking tractors ever made. Mine with a loader and added step is fairly easy to get on but yes a d series is much easier. If the wd45 has power steering with the loader it would be quite handy on small acerage. The best solution is keep the wd and buy the d19. If you have small acerage you need atleast 10 tractors anyway.Wink


Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2012 at 8:16pm
Wow, guys, lots of good info to consider.  Thank you!

It is a gas in decent condition from what I can tell through the photo.   I pay cash for about everything.  Hate debt.  Paid close to $100,000 cash for the house and 13 total acres.  That pretty wiped out my sock drawer cash. I have spent so much on this house and place since I moved here a couple months ago. (Amending soil of 5.2 ph, etc.)

He is only  asking $2,500.  Another guy is looking at it today, or, did last night.  Yesterday, we spoke on the phone, where I gave him a plan to buy the tractor in cash in a by the first of September. Especially, if I get a decent commission check in a few weeks.   He wanted to get cash now because he wants to get another tractor.  

He said he wants a tractor with a loader.   I have a loader arriving on Sunday for my WD45.  I asked him if he would be interested in a trade.  He said that he would consider it.  Not really at all turned off by the idea.

I haven't had the WD45 all that long.  I like it, but another D19, in like new condition sold locally for $4,000 recently, and that is what got me interested and doing some internet research.   When I was a kid, we had a CASE back in the '60's.  Liked it.  Been off the farm a few years, and now just picked up 11 acres. (13 if you include the house, lawn, and acre + pond. It is now divided off into two fenced pastures of abut 5+ acres each.


DanWI,
I like the way that you think! Smile   I was thinking the same thing, that is, about having both, the WD45 that I have now, AND a D19.  That is why I offered to pay the $2,500 in full by the 1st.   He  seemed to want the cash NOW, and at $2,500, he will probably get it as I am typing this.


PlayGun,
We think alike on the esthetics of the D19. I like it's looks... same, though, for the WD45.  Mine is not "restored" but it has a nice new paint job in Persian Orange #1.


Orange Blood, and all.....
It is a gas, if we agree, we will get together and inspect each other's tractor and proceed from there.  Mine is in excellent condition.  His looks good, and says nothing is wrong with it.  We will have a chance to go over them before any deal.

My main concern now, is that he will have someone get there first and snap it up.  Like he said, someone had called and said that they would come look.  At $2,500.

I have been thinking of a D19 for some time, right after I got the WD45, an ORANGE bug bit me.   If this one sells, before I get it, after hearing from you guys, I will definitely be hoarding cash to buy another when it comes up.     I have seen two in the region in the last couple months, one for $4,000 that sold just like that.  It was in almost new condition, and this one for $2,500.   Either way, my next big to me, purchase will be a D19.

Thanks a million!

Am still interested in other comments on the topic and will keep checking.



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Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2012 at 8:19pm







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Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2012 at 8:22pm
Thad,

A tractor per acre, I like it! Smile   Great info.  I wish he would let me buy it in cash by the 1st.  Offered to give him $1,500 now, $500 when I get my commission check around the 15th or so, and another $500 with my paycheck on the 1st.   He wanted cash NOW.  We'll see.

Thanks!




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Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2012 at 8:29pm
Just talked with his wife.   The tractor has not been sold yet, to her knowledge.  He  is supposed to call me when he returns home tonight.

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Posted By: Orange Blood
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2012 at 9:21pm
Any D19 for $2500, is almost a steal, unless something is drastically wrong with it.

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Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2012 at 10:32pm
D-19 ; Hi lo PD , easier and stronger for 3 pt adaptor on Snap coupler, 3 pt was available from factory, safer and more comfortable riding position,easier to get on and off, more power, better hydraulics and steering and looks better ( at least from these eyes) 2500.00 ? Keep them both

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Posted By: bigfish_Oh
Date Posted: 08 Aug 2012 at 11:59pm
you can find a WD45 and a loader everyday

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Posted By: PlayGun
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2012 at 2:00am
Good looking tractor, and you don't see the 19's fs as often an the 17's. I am looking at 17's and 15's right now, just haven't made up my mind yet.

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Posted By: realolman
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2012 at 5:54am
Unless there is something badly wrong with that tractor, go to the bank, and sort em out later.


Posted By: carl
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2012 at 8:25am
Just a comment on the fuel consumption.  Yes the 19 gas could use a lot but remember it's a pretty big tractor,up to 5 plow.  45 was much lighter - 3 plow.  we only used 3 gal per hour in heavy pulling, like plowing or chopping on the 45.  19 could go up to 4 plus in heavy pulling, like a six row rear mount cultivator.  For lighter work it wasn't so bad, big problem was the gas tank was too small!


Posted By: Wayne
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2012 at 8:50am
I have 4 tractors per acre and I only have 5 acres. The 19 looks pretty good. Not telling what to do but if yiou  have good credit borrow the money for 30, 60 or 90 dasys and you will be money ahead. I did that for my D12 and have not regreted iot. Just my 2 cents.


Posted By: John (MO)
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2012 at 9:28am
You can put the same loader on either tractor. I've had the same trip bucket loader on a WD, D14 and D19.


Posted By: Bolivar Boy
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2012 at 9:35am
we have as our main tractor a d19 gasser. we use it on 20 acres with 4x16 sc plow and drag around a 14ft double disk and spring tooth harrow. it has 3000 hrs on it. yep. its thirsty but it will pull anything we hook it to. wouldn't sell it for anything under $4500. seems that 19's are really getting popular.


Posted By: Michael Crowe
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2012 at 11:15am
My D19 is a diesel, and I love it.  I can't imagine the gas engine being that bad in comparison.  For that price, buy it.

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Posted By: KGood
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2012 at 1:56pm
I've always wanted a D19 but would have a hard time doing without a 45 with a loader


Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2012 at 6:47pm
Guys, I REALLY want to thank you all for your posts.  I am going to click on the "thanks" button, and hope that does the job.

Great posts!

I do not want to JINX it, but after several of you commented that I should keep both, and after talking to the man today, and him not being as interested in a trade for my WD45, as I had thought in our previous conversation, we have a verbal, over the phone agreement that I will look at the tractor, the first of the week, and if all is right with it, I will buy it.


He has kindly accepted my offer to pay him the $2,500 by the first of September, and has made arrangements to have it hauled here.


He seems like a genuine, great guy.  I am looking forward to meeting him.

After talking with him, it looks like we have a deal.

Two tractors.  Heck, I need a darn truck, PROBABLY, more than I need a second tractor, but WHERE are you going to find a sweet orange D19 at such a good price.

Really, I was sweating this out.  If it hadn't been for the evaluations that you guys made in this topic, If I didn't know about the forum, I may have just passed on this one, and gotten a truck.

As it is, when I get it, and it does depend on checking it out first, I think, with your supportive comments, that I am going to be a very happy person, and happy that I kept both.

Again, thank you ALL!

Dex


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Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2012 at 6:50pm
Hi, BIG FISH.

I wasn't confident that I could find a WD45 loader "any day", or, that they could be common in southern Missouri.
I am a little embarrassed to tell you how much I paid for it.  The good thing is that he is in another state and agreed to deliver it free.    Nice guy on the phone.  Looking forward to meeting him.


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Posted By: captaindana
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2012 at 6:55pm
Dexter I love my 19 G and will never get rid of it. It'll do anything I ask of it from light to heavy jobs, and even baling heavy hay with 8 x 16 kicker wagons on hills she burns 2 gallons per load. Just about the most bullet proof rig I ever saw!   


Posted By: realolman
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2012 at 7:04pm
To my eyes that's a pretty darn nice looking tractor for 2500 bucks .... good grief you cant get much for $2500 


Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2012 at 7:06pm
Thanks, Captaindana,

I have thought of baling hay here on the property.  Might be cheaper to have someone come in and bale my piddly 11 acres of pasture, but I kind of want the ability to be a bit self sufficient, and not dependent on the scheduling needs of others.  If I can sell my city house, I may buy more land, or, branch out and do niche baling.

Your comments about the D19 handling hay baling is just what I needed to hear.

thanks,

Dex


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Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 09 Aug 2012 at 8:31pm
Check that D-19 out if you can first. Make sure hand clutch snaps in and out smoothly and snug in both hi and lo. Drive down a hill in 3rd and 4th gears and idle down while going down hill,if it pops out of gear it can get pricey to fix.Any noise in rear end? I am sure this man you are dealing with is honest, but some problems with these old girls can be a handfull. If you have a shop and skills it's not as drastic as I say, but without shop and skills it can be difficult,expensive to fix.With him giving you time to pay you will have time to find any major problems

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Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2012 at 5:49pm
Hi, Pat,

Thank you so much for the suggestions on what to look for when I look at it Wednesday.

If you, or, others on here have any other suggestions of what to check for when I am looking this D19 over, i would appreciate all  the suggestions and help that I can get.


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Posted By: cornbinder
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2012 at 6:15pm
p/d, gear jumper ( run it in second and 3rd high and find a small hill going down run the throttle up to wide open and back off  a few times and see if she jumps out) oil pressure when hot, check for blow bye also when hot. check hydraulic function, listen for abnormal sounds in rear-end after ran around and gear oil is warmed up. p/s function,  just look for normal stuff you'd look at on a piece of machinery that's over 50 years old. our d-19 g is thirsty but it does everything we ask of it and comes back for more. our 19 will use 5-6 gph when straining it's nuts( that 262g purrs like a kitten very smooth and is very quiet)  no ringing ears at the end of the day. $2500 is a steal for any d-19. i like ours so well we have just purchased a 2nd one and should be getting it the same time you get yours. this one is a diesel and will be used for plowing&disking (fuel miser)LOL   pete

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Posted By: Dexter Peabody
Date Posted: 10 Aug 2012 at 10:25pm
Hi, Cornbinder,

All of you guys have helped ma arrive at the decision to go ahead and buy it and park it along side my WD45.   I thought that it was a good price, because one just sold in the area for $4,500 a couple months ago.  It looked almost new, but this one is not bad at all from what I can see. 

I meet with the current owner toward the end of next week. 

I was the grease monkey on our farm back in the 60's, but since I have been gone since 1965, I have lost just about everything that I knew, or,  thought that I knew back then.


That is why what you and Pat the Plumber have told me to look for is very important information for me.   I really do appreciate everyone who posted along the line on their thoughts on my WD45 with Loader, and whether I should try to trade, or, sell it to get the D19. 

I was surprised that the consensus was that I should keep both.  I was happy as heck to have ONE Allis, never knew that I really NEEDED TWO, until the idea was put forth here. Smile


Again, thanks everyone.  If anyone else has suggestions on what I should look for when I go look and, if all is well, buy it next week, please speak up.

Thanks!

Dex


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Posted By: realolman
Date Posted: 11 Aug 2012 at 9:09am
Originally posted by Dexter Peabody Dexter Peabody wrote:


.....I was surprised that the consensus was that I should keep both.  I was happy as heck to have ONE Allis, never knew that I really NEEDED TWO, until the idea was put forth here..... Smile


Dex


That doesn't surprise me at all.  You DO know where you are here, don't you?Wink



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