8050 Makeover
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Topic: 8050 Makeover
Posted By: d17brown
Subject: 8050 Makeover
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 7:50am
New firestones on the back, sandblasted most of the tractor, and powered by cummins.
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Posted By: Byron WC in SW Wi
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 7:55am
| Nice. |
Posted By: WD45
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 8:57am
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Very nice. Size of engine installed and hp. ------------- Fred Dunlop, G,B,CA, WC,WF, 3 WD45`s,gas, diesel and LP,U,D10 series III, D12,D14,D15 SERIES II,D17 Series IV in Gas and Diesel ,D19 GAS and D21,170 185,210 ,220 an I-600 8070 fwd, 716H and 1920H |
Posted By: d17brown
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 9:10am
| 210 hp |
Posted By: darrel in ND
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 10:08am
| SWEET!!! Those 8000 series are boss. One time Mark (the AC engineer on the forum here) had said that an improvement that was in store for the 8000 series was a 3 speed range instead of the 2 speed. If that would have materialized, and a few other improvements such as the exhaust going up the cab corner and a fully digital electronics, these tractors would have jumped ahead of the competition drastically. They're awesome even the way they are, though. Darrel |
Posted By: ILGLEANER
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 3:37pm
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Very nice D17 IG ------------- Education doesn't make you smart, it makes you educated. |
Posted By: allisrutledge
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 4:17pm
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Very nice , where do I apply for a makeover? Scott ------------- Allis Chalmers still exist in my mind and barns |
Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 5:26pm
Anybody remember the "Agri-Data" system we tried with the 8000's? We weren't too sure about the state of the art of a full digital system complete with ground speed sensing, so only 50 units were built and sold. As was feared, problems with EMI/RFI were encountered and sealing of the sensors and connectors wasn't far enough along. They were (at least all that AC could get their hands on) bought back. Sensors and connectors have come a long way since then-------partially the result of the auto industry going to computers running most of a car these days. The 3 speed range would have been a great improvement as the middle range with the Power Shift would have provided nice coverage for field work as well as field transport. And once the drive train engineers looked at it, it turned out that it wouldn't have been that hard to do. ------------- Mark B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel, GTH-L Simplicity Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not. |
darrel in ND wrote:Posted By: PeteMN
Date Posted: 26 Jul 2012 at 7:02pm
| I can sure see why AGCO/MF wouldn't want their reputation stained by associating their company with tractors like that. Here they are about 30 years old and people are still putting most of them to work. And the 30 year old Massey's, hmm, sure hope their new ones are better than their old ones. |
Posted By: allisrutledge
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 6:39am
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427, Were there any talk or plans of a full 18 speed power shift? I think it was about this time that the green one came out. Thanks Scott ------------- Allis Chalmers still exist in my mind and barns |
Posted By: XT in pa
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 6:48am
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what size tires ? and how much where they i want new ones for my 7045 but scared to call bout price it has 20.8X38 firestones 151. Shawn ------------- 190XT,D17and 7045 |
Posted By: d17brown
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 10:06am
| these are 20.8*38 firestones 1450 each, fronts are 14L*16 310.each |
Posted By: allisrutledge
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 10:24am
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I just put 18.4 Firestons on with new tubes and top off with methanol plus labor was $3135.80. I wish i had done it two years earlier. Scott ------------- Allis Chalmers still exist in my mind and barns |
Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 10:49am
No. There was not nearly enough engineering or tooling money available for something like that. We were trying to find incremental improvements that would be relatively inexpensive to engineer, test, and tool. Things like a 3 speed range or the 9025 (AKA 8095) required little tooling or engineering. Frankly, the 18 speed Deere powershift was not very good at that time. The shifts were terrible. ------------- Mark B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel, GTH-L Simplicity Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not. |
Posted By: PlayGun
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 10:54am
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Real nice, now if they just made a cab tractor like that in the 50hp range,lol. ------------- Hopefully Future AC Man! Ride With Jesus my friends! Lonas |
Posted By: 7060
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 12:00pm
| Thats a very nice looking tractor. I gave $1500 for my firestones, and $350 for my 14L American Farmers. |
Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 12:09pm
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wasn't the Deere of the time in the 50 series 15 speed? ------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |
Posted By: allisrutledge
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 12:36pm
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I think the magnum had the 18 soon after the green 15. Thanks for the Info 427435 it's always good to here from you. Scott ------------- Allis Chalmers still exist in my mind and barns |
Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 12:47pm
You are correct. Prior to that (1981 or 1982), they had an 8 speed power shift. ------------- Mark B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel, GTH-L Simplicity Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not. |
Posted By: Michael (WI)
Date Posted: 27 Jul 2012 at 4:07pm
| Certainly not defedning Deere but we had a 4255 with the sequentioal 15 sp powershift and thought it worked pretty nice. Although if you wanted road gears it took awhile to get throught all the other gears to get there unlike having a range box in front the powershift. But I had an eight year gap between driving that and the 8030. |
Posted By: heavy12d
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 12:39am
| That is a great looking tractor! I am planning to repower my 8010 w/ a 5.9 cummins motor, how hard was your repower? What size cummins did you use? |