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Topic: Moving Silos
Posted By: houchens
Subject: Moving Silos
Date Posted: 04 May 2012 at 10:43pm
Does anyone have any info on moving silos? Is it worth the time and hassle, and money?
 
How much work and finances does a move usually require?
 
Any help greatly appreciated.
 


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Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 05 May 2012 at 12:16am
Hard to get under the power lines!
Sorry, other then being a smart a-s, can't help you.


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Posted By: Redpower1456
Date Posted: 05 May 2012 at 12:34am
Never heard of doing such a thing. Sounds like any attempt would be incredibly dangerous.

The only silos I have heard of ever being moved were first disassembled, moved, and then reassembled successfully are those blue silos. Can't think of the exact spelling, but something like Harvester, Harvestore, or maybe Harvestor.


Posted By: dave63
Date Posted: 05 May 2012 at 5:31am
The amish take stave silos apart to move them around here. I don't know what they charge but most non amish Dairy farms are getting away from upright silos.
You can bunk it or bag it with a lot less hassle and expense.


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Posted By: John Sealey
Date Posted: 05 May 2012 at 6:03am
Same here. Amish offered me $500 for my 12'x30' stave silo. I said no thanks. It deflects the wind load on my old barn.


Posted By: Gary
Date Posted: 05 May 2012 at 6:11am
    Just do like Johnny Cash:
 
     1 piece at a time !
 
 
  Starting at the top of course.
 
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Posted By: MBWisc
Date Posted: 05 May 2012 at 7:42am
If you have enough volume most any horizontal storage is lower cost/ton/year than upright silos. Even with lesser amounts silo bags are very economical on an annual ownership cost basis. 


Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 05 May 2012 at 8:07am
I saw a story on a big hydraulic rig a guy built to clamp on a Harvester, lift it and lay it down. Once it was down you could drive the road to where it was going to be stood back up. Probably not cheap to do. I moved and old cement stave silo once. Knock a few holes in it, ran a chain through and pulled with a 7080. It moved all the way to the ground so the track loader could scoop it up. Smile

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Posted By: JohnCinMd
Date Posted: 05 May 2012 at 8:34am
Not moving a silo, but after a barn fire here at the local rescue mission, they decided they didn't want the silo...
 
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Posted By: StewartMD
Date Posted: 05 May 2012 at 8:41am
There seem to be alot of opinions out there on this topic.  I will at least try to fill you in on what works for us with the pros and cons.  We chop about 200-250 tons of corn silage a year for our cow herd.  Our silo holds about 100 tons and we put the rest in an Ag-bag.  Sometimes we will put 50 tons of barley/wheat silage on the ground and cover it.  The problems we have with the Ag-bag is fox and other animals seem to like to crawl on top and poke small holes in the plastic, which causes a moldy spot.  Nothing big but enough to be irritating.  Scooping out of a bag or bunker is faster, but unless you have a gravel pad for the bag to sit on you will fight mud all winter.  I personally prefer our silo, but we are a small operation only feeding like 2000 lbs per day of corn silage.  The unloader is a PAIN to work on when something breaks, but 99% of the time it is fine, and our unloader is old.  Once a week our unloader arm has to be moved down, which means climbing that dirty chute.  But there is nothing like flipping the switches and watching the silage be conveyed up the feeder to the cows, especially if it's snowing, raining, or just plain cold outside.  With all that being said....it truly depends on the size of your operation.  If you have a bunker or ag-bag you will need to be using enough off the face to keep it fresh.  Google it on the internet, there is lots of information out there.

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Posted By: dannyraddatz
Date Posted: 05 May 2012 at 9:30am
If they are metal, a friend of mine told me here in Plainfield, Illinois that when farms were being sold for housing a company in the area brought in a helicopter, hooked up and flew the silos to another farm where the new bases had been poured to accept the silos.
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Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 06 May 2012 at 6:21am
I've been in the poured in place silo industry for almost fifty years but sold our farm silo business 15 years ago. In this area the Mennonites are busy taking down and rebuilding concrete stave silos mostly for their own small farms. A good used stave silo can be free for taking it to worth up to $1000 if it is a popular size. As farms got larger bunker silos became more popular. We have a number of Dutch and Swiss dairy farmers and comming from Europe and they know how to manage bunker silos. The main problem with tower silos was that the unloader companies did not keep up, and a lot of that problem has to do with the lack of 3 phase electricity on farms limiting the size of motors. We are still in the industrial poured concrete business pouring silos up to 80' dia mostly for grain. www.mwisilo.com


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Posted By: Brampton 02 gt
Date Posted: 09 May 2012 at 8:17pm
Lots of good you tube videos of guys shooting down silo's.  They fall pretty easy.
We sold our 2 60 ft silos to the mennonites.  The took them down one peice at a time and threw the blocks down onto a pile of gravel.  Hardly a block broke.  They gave us some money.  The crazy thing is they did it in the dead of winter with no harnesses.  They even ate luch outside in minus 20 celcius.


Posted By: JIMncMO
Date Posted: 09 May 2012 at 8:56pm
We moved a 24x70 stave silo.  Madison Marrietta Silo Co.  did the tear down and rebuild.  we bought new staves for the bottom course, since they get the most acid abuse.  Gave 1500$ for the silo and 3 yr old unloader.  After labor, footer wiring etc.  We had less than a third of the cost of a new silo in it, not including what the cost of a new unloader would have been.


Posted By: victoryallis
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2017 at 5:25am
Originally posted by dave63 dave63 wrote:

The amish take stave silos apart to move them around here. I don't know what they charge but most non amish Dairy farms are getting away from upright silos.
You can bunk it or bag it with a lot less hassle and expense.


Yup

Heard stories of the Amish having the kids climb the silo after the roof was off and straddle the blocks and lossen and lowered the blocks till the silo was down. Not sure it was true.

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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2017 at 6:39am
If you can ever get to see a TV show called 'Monster Moves', one episode follows some Canucks moving a HUGE grain  silo from side of RR track !
Impressive, hate to think of the cost though.

Seems anything can be moved but a lot of time / plannng to make a route where you don't have to move/cut hydro wires. THAT would be my first task. SEE if there's a viable route to make life 'easy'. I've seen them lower silos onto flatbed trailers with cranes so that's 'easy', maybe $150/hr ?

Bottom line is well the 'bottom line'. Figure out cost of new, built on site VS total cost to take down/transport/erect old silo. Use a 'sharp' pencil ! Include 'wide load' permits, cop escorts, etc.

Jay



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Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2017 at 7:20am
Saw a show where they left the top ring attached to the roof and just unbolted it from the second ring then used a crane to lift it off and sit in on a flat bed.  The rest of the bin was unbolted and dismantled bolt by bolt.

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Posted By: Tbone95
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2017 at 7:47am
5 1/2 year old thread! ....but, depends immensely on what is meant by the word "silo".  And I see the original poster was kind enough to never reply back and clarify.  Some people call a "grain bin" a silo, and there's some silos you sure as heck aren't going to pick up with a crane and move! 
 
Ever see the video of the guys taking one down with a bowling ball cannon?  Now that would be fun!!!


Posted By: shameless dude
Date Posted: 13 Oct 2017 at 3:01pm
you beat me to that T-Bone, most around here call the metal ones grain bins, some from elsewhere call them silos. I've moved several grain bins, picked them up on each side with fork lifts (on loaders or skid loaders) and backed a low bed trailer under them, tied them down and took off. biggest one I hauled that way was a 6500 bu. bin. got know your routes to watch for trees, wires, bridges, signs, traffic, and other hazards! and I've also seen the helicopters pick up and carry big grain bins, think the closest one around here to do that comes out of Kansas City.



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