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Topic: D17 power steerinf front support
Posted By: pied
Subject: D17 power steerinf front support
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2012 at 2:30pm
  Has anyone ever rebuilt the power steering front support on a D17? something gave up in the front support and I was wondering if I should attempt to rebuild it myself.Confused



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Posted By: RichinWis
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2012 at 3:46pm
Basically the ram side is just like a hydraulic ram with a gear rack on the right side and a hydraulic motor on the other side. Not real complicated in my opinion. The hard part is getting at it on the tractor, as it is all contained in the front casting.


Posted By: pied
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2012 at 4:46pm
  That's what I was wondering. Seems like it would be a pain. Any tips are recomendations to help me along.  I ordered a service manual and hope it has clear details on this.  THANKS for any help you can give.Wink


Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 26 Mar 2012 at 7:11pm
once removed it is pretty easy to work on. It's heavy though, get help

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Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD


Posted By: Don(MO)
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 7:31am
I'm betting it's the pin in the rack to piston. You can fix it without removing the hole unit.


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3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep.



Posted By: Charlie175
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 9:58am
Also if you do tear it apart, you will need new vellum gaskets/spacers.



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Charlie

'48 B, '51 CA, '56 WD45 '61 D17, '63 D12, '65 D10 , '68 One-Ninety XTD


Posted By: pied
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 2:16pm
Here is a photo of the tractor with the steering problem.


Posted By: pied
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 2:29pm
    I had problems on the photo upload but that is the tractor with the steering problem. It became mine when my son died in a hunting accident. I have had no experiences with tractors till now and I am appreciating all of the information everyone is giving. I'm trying to get it into shape and will keep it in memory of Jason.  In the background is the other tractor, a Ford 3000. I know very little about it also but will tackle that project after this one.  It's good to know that I have people out there that know everything about tractors!  THANKS!!!!!


Posted By: jacelee
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2012 at 4:01pm
 Well, I attempted the front support removal yasterday. everything went well. I came across the problem while disassembling. Now I need to know if anyone knows where I can find this and what is it called. It connects to the spline shaft on the bottom of the front support and hooks to the tie rods. No part number on it.


Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2012 at 4:15pm
You can view the AGCO parts books as a "guest". I'm pretty sure http://www.agcopartsbooks.com" rel="nofollow - www.agcopartsbooks.com is the web address. You can see expanded views of all parts of the tractor. Talking to Sandy Lake Imp (one of the sponsors here) will help too. They will be able to set you up with just about any part you will need.

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"Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford


Posted By: orangereborn
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2012 at 4:37pm
Is it the part that has the splines in it and the two holes for the tie rods and fits over the
splined shaft that comes out of the front support?  Steering arm #70250639.  Old parts books show 229062.  Did it break or are the splines gone?    I have a couple of parts tractors that should have one.  Out checking.....Dale
 

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Dale Schafer

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Posted By: jacelee
Date Posted: 01 Apr 2012 at 8:18pm
  Thanks for that info!!!!!  I'll check out that number!!   That's the part I'm speeking of and it 's broken not stripped out. The spline on the front support seems to be fine. Let me know if you fine one. Has anyone ever have this problem or is it rare to have that happen?


Posted By: jacelee
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2012 at 6:44am
   Dale,    I located the part with the number you gave me 229062 but they are OUT OF STOCK! What luck!   Were you able to check your supply? Please let me know either way! And THANKS for being soooo helpful.


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2012 at 6:52am
I'll bet I could weld it back together......been there....dun that.


Posted By: jacelee
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2012 at 6:54pm
    You think welding it woulr hold up?


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 02 Apr 2012 at 7:13pm
I'm not there looking at it, but it's pretty simple.....if it doesn't hold up, what are you out???? you'll still need to get a different one. I can't imagine not being able to weld it I guess, off the tractor, (not on the tractor) where you can clean it and roll it around to weld it good.


Posted By: jacelee
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 5:44am
   Think it would mess up the spline ?


Posted By: DonDittmar
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 8:10am
Originally posted by jacelee jacelee wrote:

   Think it would mess up the spline ?
Shouldnt.
Like the DR says, if it does mess it up what are your out?


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Experience is a fancy name for past mistakes. "Great moments are born from great opportunity"

1968 D15D,1962 D19D
Also 1965 Cub Loboy and 1958 JD 720 Diesel Pony Start


Posted By: orangereborn
Date Posted: 03 Apr 2012 at 9:07am
I would agree with the experts on this one.  I'd try the weld.  Word is a new one over
$600 and used $200 plus.......Dale


Posted By: jacelee
Date Posted: 04 Apr 2012 at 4:54am
     We'll give it a shot and let ya'll know how it turns out!Wink 



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