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Topic: I posted this picture before...identify please
Posted By: Austin(WI)
Subject: I posted this picture before...identify please
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2012 at 3:11pm
I bought this picture at a toy show a couple years back...and does anyone know the story behind this? Are any one identify people in this picture?
 
 
 


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Posted By: Ted in NE-OH
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2012 at 3:17pm
The tractor doesn't look like Allis Chalmers.

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Posted By: Rfdeere
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2012 at 3:21pm
   Austin, do you have a larger version of this photo ?

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Posted By: Rfdeere
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2012 at 3:23pm
Originally posted by Ted in NE-OH Ted in NE-OH wrote:

The tractor doesn't look like Allis Chalmers.
 
   They are Allis Chalmers D series. This is outside of the tractor shop #3 in West Allis.


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Posted By: Austin(WI)
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2012 at 3:25pm
Thats the biggest one I have. Someone said this was a district meeting at the WAW when the D-series first came out. They said this is 1 of 3 photographs taken of the district sales or marketing.


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Posted By: Rfdeere
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2012 at 3:30pm
Originally posted by Austin(WI) Austin(WI) wrote:

Thats the biggest one I have. Someone said this was a district meeting at the WAW when the D-series first came out. They said this is 1 of 3 photographs taken of the district sales or marketing.
 
   The introduction of the D series would be my guess as well. It is hard to tell but aren't all of the tractors D17's ? I also noticed the muffler and air intake appear to be the same color ?


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Posted By: Austin(WI)
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2012 at 8:05pm
Might be a few D14s in there...

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Posted By: BPM75
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2012 at 8:37pm
Judging by the decals I would say the pic is from 59-60 not when they first came out.


Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2012 at 8:44pm
My guess is  that this was taken sometime in mid 1957. Looks like mostly D-17's.
check out all the LP tractors.


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Posted By: Allen Dilg
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2012 at 9:31pm

  Hello Austin   My best bet is to talk to        god,         I think he would enjoy talking to you.     414 545 7419



Posted By: Austin(WI)
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2012 at 10:15pm
Originally posted by Allen Dilg Allen Dilg wrote:

  Hello Austin   My best bet is to talk to        god,         I think he would enjoy talking to you.     414 545 7419 begin_of_the_skype_highlighting            414 545 7419      end_of_the_skype_highlighting

 
When you say "god" I am assuming you mean Mr. Norm Swinford?
:)


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Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2012 at 12:43am
I didn't know God had a phone number, has he got an email address?

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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2012 at 6:44am
Originally posted by JohnCO JohnCO wrote:

I didn't know God had a phone number, has he got an email address?

http://www.welcometoheavan.comWink And if the link don't work for ya, pray a little more.


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Posted By: David Maddux
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2012 at 7:02am
Makes you wonder how many of those men are still around.


Posted By: DanD
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2012 at 7:11am
Seeing that picture makes me think of a comment a person made on TV the other night.  They said, "The world went to hell when men stopped wearing hats."  Looks like this picture was taken in the good days yet!


Posted By: Brian S(NY)
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2012 at 7:38am
Originally posted by DanD DanD wrote:

Seeing that picture makes me think of a comment a person made on TV the other night.  They said, "The world went to hell when men stopped wearing hats."  Looks like this picture was taken in the good days yet!
Lots of folks still wear hats... backwards...and britches that hang on their knees....

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Posted By: TedBuiskerN.IL.
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2012 at 8:00am
From the dress, I would say this picture was taken in the late fall or early winter of 1957, as the D17 came out in September of 57.
The man in white, just to the left rear of the man in the dark coat center right front row, may be the dealer from Forreston, Illinois.  C.W. (Wally) Johnson. 


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Posted By: allischalmerguy
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2012 at 10:01am

There are at least 5 LP tractors in the back ground there.

I think these are D series as said...some are bigger than others...a couple like D19 on the right back ground...they look bigger.
There is probably 60 men there and yes most of them have hats and ties!!


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Posted By: Brad-MN
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2012 at 10:03am
I believe all the D19 gassers had an oval muffler, that would rule out any of them as being D19's.

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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2012 at 11:10am
Decals on the tractors are all wrong for 1957 if I'm seeing it right. Looks like 59' or 60' like someone else said earlier. I think in late 1960 or 1961 the wheels went to cream.

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Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2012 at 12:58pm
I likely was a little early. Ted has it right.

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Posted By: CaseyCreek
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2012 at 1:30pm
Guys, you may have done this already, but if you are browsing using Firefox, the following steps may help you see the details of the picture a little better:

1) Right-click over the picture
2) Select "View Image" (The image will open in a new tab)
3) Use <CTRL>+ (Control plus) and <CTRL>- to zoom in and out of the picture.

Internet Explorer has a zoom capability, but the results are not as useful IMHO.

The tractors are definitely not all D-17s.  If you look at the very left side of the picture, the tires have a different tread and the shape of the fender is different than the Series I D-17 on the right. 

Beyond that, I'm reading this column along with the rest of you guys to learn what I can.


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Posted By: Russ-neia
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2012 at 3:41pm
Only difference I see is the LH propane tractors have rice/cane tires.  All look to be 17's to me.  Tried to see if the steering wheel was early metal-spoke type or black plastic, but can't see that well.  I vote for Series II in 59 or 60 as they have the wider drawbar bail.

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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2012 at 6:11pm
The closest tractor on the left definitely has a wide bail. All the steering wheels I can see appear to be black plastic with a triangle of lighter color( chromed?) in the middle. The closets tractor on the right doesn't appear to have that center piece.

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Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2012 at 9:15pm
I was wrong thinking it was 1957. I agree that these are black bar tractors so very likely in the fall of 1959.

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