d17 power director filter
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Topic: d17 power director filter
Posted By: donais
Subject: d17 power director filter
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2012 at 12:15pm
Series 3 diesel any one know the what the filter # used?
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Posted By: Ky.Allis
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2012 at 12:44pm
Mine is a ser.3 gas and I use same filter for engine oil and power director---NAPA gold 1515
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Posted By: donais
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2012 at 12:56pm
Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2012 at 1:20pm
OK guys, where is the PD filter located?
I thought there was only a screen!
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Posted By: donais
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2012 at 2:11pm
Mine is a diesel and its on the right side just above the. Pd cover brooch the fuel tank
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Posted By: Brian G. NY
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2012 at 2:18pm
OK, mine's a Series II so I guess it doesn't have that nice feature!?
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Posted By: donais
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2012 at 2:20pm
The feature mine doesn't have is brakes .....yet
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Posted By: donais
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2012 at 2:41pm
The feature mine doesn't have is brakes .....yet
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Posted By: AllisFreak MN
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2012 at 3:14pm
Series I does not have that feature.
------------- '49 A-C WD, '51 A-C WD, '63 A-C D17 Series III, 1968 A-C One-Seventy, '82 A-C 6060, '75 A-C 7040, A-C #3 sickle mower, 2 A-C 701 wagons, '78 Gleaner M2
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Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2012 at 4:21pm
Wasn't it about series 3 that they started putting P.D. filters on?
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Posted By: Skyhighballoon(MO)
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2012 at 4:48pm
Brian - yes Series III @ SN42001. They also combined the PD and hydraulics compartment at this time. Series III held 24 quarts, Series IV 26 quarts (since the internal Hydraulic pump was removed). Filter crosses to Fram PH11 or Baldwin B9. Mike
------------- 1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex 1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330 1969 180 gas 1965 D17 S-IV gas 1963 D17 S-III gas 1956 WD45 gas NF PS 1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin 303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers
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Posted By: donais
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2012 at 5:00pm
Posted By: Skyhighballoon(MO)
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2012 at 5:03pm
PH8A is the correct engine oil filter. Mike
------------- 1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex 1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330 1969 180 gas 1965 D17 S-IV gas 1963 D17 S-III gas 1956 WD45 gas NF PS 1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin 303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers
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Posted By: Skyhighballoon(MO)
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2012 at 5:10pm
Actually now that I think of it there was a SN break where the early ones used the same hydraulic and oil filter...(now why they changed it I have no idea). I think a PH8A (Or Baldwin B2 or Motocraft FL1A) will work for SN42001-SN68627. SN68628 & up used the different filter. Mike
------------- 1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex 1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330 1969 180 gas 1965 D17 S-IV gas 1963 D17 S-III gas 1956 WD45 gas NF PS 1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin 303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers
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Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2012 at 9:37pm
Fram PH 11 for hydraulic filter. PH 8A for engine oil filter.
------------- '49 G, '54 WD45, '55 CA, '56 WD45D, '57 WD45, '58 D14, '59 D14, '60 D14, '61 D15D, '66 D15II, '66 D21II, '67 D17IV, '67 D17IVD, '67 190XTD, '73 620, '76 185, '77 175, '84 8030, '85 6080
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Posted By: Longmeadow Farm
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2012 at 9:44pm
I own a 175, bought it new in DEc 1980. It was shipped from the factory with the same oil filter base for both the engine and hydraulic system. They boith take a PH 8A filter.
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Posted By: DanD
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2012 at 11:01pm
The serial number break was during Series III production where the hydraulic oil filter changed. DOn't remember exactly the number. However, the earlier ones took the same filter as the engine, a 70237000. These have I believe a 3/4 inch hole where the threads are. The newer ones I believe have a 13/16 hole and is the same hydraulic filter as used on, for example, a 185. Here is picture of the location of the hydraulic/power director oil filter on a D17.
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Posted By: donais
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2012 at 11:26pm
mine is one of the real early series 3's it has old style brakes and new style pump timing (i think) cant find the hole to put the pin in the flywheel and the pulley doesn't have the timing marks on it,.... so i guess ill take it off and see what size the threads are.
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Posted By: DanD
Date Posted: 05 Feb 2012 at 11:33pm
donais wrote:
mine is one of the real early series 3's it has old style brakes and new style pump timing (i think) cant find the hole to put the pin in the flywheel and the pulley doesn't have the timing marks on it,.... so i guess ill take it off and see what size the threads are. |
All Series III tractors have the new style band/disc brakes. Don't trust decals to tell you for sure if your tractor is a Series III or not. WHat is the serial number?
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Posted By: donais
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2012 at 12:17am
42043 when i took it apart the brakes had the 2 piece pull the pin and take them out of the top of the hole brakes i dont think it has discs
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Posted By: donais
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2012 at 10:18pm
well i dont think its a ph8a the one thats on there is @ 1 inch longer
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Posted By: Josh(NE)
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2012 at 10:41pm
I just changed the filters on my 170 and it takes Fram ph8a or baldwin b2 for both.
------------- Allis Express '65 190XT, 37 B, '72 170, '83 8030, and the IH 560 was a mistake
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Posted By: donais
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2012 at 10:41pm
Posted By: Josh(NE)
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2012 at 10:48pm
When I got the tractor a year ago it came with a fram ph11 which is a inch longer it was bought by the previous owner but not installed. I went to use it and it wouldnt fit. I got online and the fram filter application guide showed it took a ph11. Local parts store sells baldwin and by application and cross reference from the agco # they showed it as a b2 or ph8a.
------------- Allis Express '65 190XT, 37 B, '72 170, '83 8030, and the IH 560 was a mistake
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