Plowing with the 170
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Topic: Plowing with the 170
Posted By: captaindana
Subject: Plowing with the 170
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2011 at 5:56pm
After this mornings 18* gave way to a beautiful sunny quickly warming day, I got to work again with the 170 and 3x14 Oliver plow around 1400 hours this afternoon. I ended up plowing around 5 plus acres of quite heavy clay loam. I plowed around 6 inches deep using third low running 1450 working under load rpm's. I was shocked when done and refueling...she took 10 gallons, right around 2 gals per acre. Believe me she was really working! Wow! Economical! My first time plowing with a 170! Can't wait now to get the XT done lol!
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Posted By: wheatbreeder
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2011 at 7:23pm
Captain any time we plowed with the 170-175 the front axle was set at two holes not for just wonder were your rear wheel was set? The second plow should be center over the drawbar
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Posted By: wheatbreeder
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2011 at 7:24pm
ny mistake you have three holes on front axle not four
------------- Farm stuff 8050,6690,175,F2,5050,WD
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 06 Nov 2011 at 8:19pm
Hey, Captain, don't your auto steer work on the 170? I see a little crook in that furrow there. LOL
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Posted By: captaindana
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2011 at 4:21am
Hey guys IDK about front holes or spacing but I do know it pulls perfectly!
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Posted By: DaveC/CVNY
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2011 at 2:58pm
Looks good! But only 3 14's? I had a 170 with 4 16's, the 2000 monoframe series, covered alot of ground around Cherry Valley with them! When we have our plow day next year you will have to come up and join us!
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Posted By: Jim Lindemood
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2011 at 4:06pm
Looks like a pretty fun day -- Love a nice sunny Fall day -- and even better on a tractor.
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Posted By: Tony Elo
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2011 at 4:12pm
Dumb question,the tach is sitting at 1500.Is that all that a 170 will turn.I have one that won't rev up over 1600,jus curious
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Posted By: D17JIM
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2011 at 4:28pm
Hey Captain. Looks like a couple of strips missed on the spray job. Saying no more! Jim
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Posted By: Bob D. (La)
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2011 at 4:36pm
Don't let em give you too much of a hard time Cap'n. Thier just jealous. Matter of fact, so am I. I know it was a fun afternoon. God Bless.
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Posted By: captaindana
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2011 at 6:57pm
D17 Jim...Sssssshhhhhhh.........need I say more? Guys once upon a time I had the 4 bottom x 16 series 2000 hyd reset plows on the 180 and IH 710 5x 18 on my 1566. But the other day I all of a sudden wanted to plow so I reborrowed my old Oliver 3 x 14's which we gave to an ex hired hand just so some one would use them and to make me more shed room. I have a 2x16 for the WD. [or are they 14?] Anyhow these fit the bill this week, and someday I'll grab a 720 x 4 for the XT maybe. But today I flew and the son should bhave finished 4 plots. Can't wait for daylight!
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Posted By: captaindana
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2011 at 7:32pm
Tony I choose to run just under 1500 rpm's. She revs to redline easily. I like the speed in 3rd low at this power setting. I tried 2nd high too but where the rocks are it's just a tad too fast for my liking. With the 38 inch rears her speeds are faster than with the standard 28's.
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Posted By: Tony Elo
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2011 at 7:44pm
I'll have to look into mine a little closer and see whats going on
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Posted By: NC Bruce
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2011 at 9:05pm
Sounds like you had a great day, Captain!
I'm partial to those AC170 / AC175 s, kinda like our dear friend Bill Long and his AC B s!
Is it OK, if I look like I'm addicted to those AC models? ( does 3 170's and 3 175's, and looking into another one sound too crazy? )...Ha! Keep those photos coming!
PS... toot your plane  horn at me, when you fly over the farm, south of Chimney Rock, NC ?
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Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2011 at 9:13pm
Bruce where is that cab????
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Posted By: NC Bruce
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2011 at 10:29pm
Eldon, I'd like to get it mounted this winter. Many thanx to you!
I also read your post, favoring those 170 / 175 s too! Enjoy your tractor photos & that beautiful garden work you're doing!
Wish you or someone could find me a front-mount cultivator for the 170 / 175 tractor, too?
Maybe it is the hand-clutch design, tough Perkins Engines, and good looking square hood & fenders that set apart those tractors? Good to see the Captain enjoying them!
Right now, my above tractor (photo) is in the shop. The front-mount hydraulic pump 'rubber-bushings' had to be replaced....whew a job...and $80 for the 4 of them! Is your pump behaving? Was it the hydraulic shaft ?
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Posted By: Eldon (WA)
Date Posted: 07 Nov 2011 at 10:39pm
Bruce I have an extra set of those bushings....mine has been fine since I replaced it with the welded up spline/coupler from my parts 170. Now I should replace the brakes and fix the fuel gauge.
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Posted By: NC Bruce
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2011 at 6:29am
Yeah, I've got a couple with the Fuel Gauge issue and need brakes too. '
The Captain may have one of these issues too? (Don't intend to divert his AC Post)
Guess I'll have to post a question, How to fix my fuel guage and that brake 'pin' everyone talks about? Kinda need both...to work....ha!
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Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2011 at 7:17am
Great pictures Captain! Thanks for posting them.
------------- 1957 WD45 dad's first AC
1968 one-seventy
1956 F40 Ferguson
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Posted By: Dick L
Date Posted: 08 Nov 2011 at 8:08am
Good plowing job for sure.
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Posted By: cadcorey
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2012 at 4:30pm
I see you must be the guy to talk to about the 170?? I am looking at buying one and the one big thing i see wrong with it is that i can take the pto shaft and move it in and out about a 1/4". From what i have seen on-line, it is a bolt on stub. Also can you tell me for sure what is wrong with it and what it would take to fix it? Any help would be great as im a big fan of allis, just looking for something bigger than my "C".
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Posted By: captaindana
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2012 at 6:03pm
cadcorey I can't help you. Hopefully someone knowledgable will speak up/
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Posted By: Claus
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2012 at 8:20pm
Cadcorey, if your 170 has a pto with a bolt on stub you must have a 2 speed pto, you bolt it facing one way for 540 and turn it around for 1,000. That is all I know about that. My 170 has the standard 540, I have changed the seal and O ring, that job is pretty easy.
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Posted By: cadcorey
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2012 at 6:56am
Guys,
Thanks for trying to help. I have found a guy on here that has 180's that gave me the info i needed. It is just held in by the seal plate and can be pulled straight out the back to change the bearings. Again thanks and if i get it im sure i will be asking you guys more questions as i go along with it. Thanks again.
Corey
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Posted By: Lester
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2012 at 7:55am
If the tractor is working hard it should be at lease at full load rated rpm or at high idle rpm. It is hard on cylinder walls to work below rated load rpms, especially if it is a diesel working hard.
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