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Topic: Engine Oil Qestion/Advice
Posted By: Zyta
Subject: Engine Oil Qestion/Advice
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2011 at 8:57pm
Looking for advise....what oil would you use in a totally rebuilt 226. This engine is my 45 puller. 10w-30, 10w-40 or 15w-40? tractor is not used in the winter months. Should I be adding any additive that's avialable out there to help lubricate the cam and lifters?? is it zinc additive?
 
Jim
 



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Posted By: steve(ill)
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2011 at 9:02pm

I like a good 10 w- 30 oil . The 15-40 normally is special addatives for a diesel.. but is o.k.



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Posted By: Stan IL&TN
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2011 at 9:07pm
Just don't use a synthetic oil until it's had a hundred or so hours on it.

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Posted By: Zyta
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2011 at 9:16pm
yah, I am definitely staying away from synthetic until its well broken in. Have been using Quaker State 10w-30 but have herd about a zinc additive for cam and valve lubrication.
 
Jim


Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2011 at 9:26pm
I have 10W30 in my rebuilt D14 with no problems.  Doesn't see much action in the winter either.

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Posted By: Tricky Dickie
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 1:52am
Zinc-based anti-wear additive is already included in the formulation of most good quality engine oils and further additives should be unneccessary.
 
Tricky Dickie


Posted By: Calvin Schmidt
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 6:15am
Jim, you are right to ask the question. There was a lot of discussion and premature cam failures in the aftermarket car performance world with flat tappet cams after the zinc was removed from the oil particularily with new rebuilds and cam breakins. All current automotive cams are rollers. I know Royal Purple oil was recomended. There may be additives now to solve that problem. I did stock up on the zinc oil but its almost used up now.

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Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 6:49am
I can think of 2 right off that are still flat tappet. Cadillac North Star and Chevy (Daewoo) Aveo.

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Posted By: Zyta
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 8:31am
Thanks Calvin, yes I am worried about the big block Fairlane and the AC's and heard about the additive. However if there's a brand of oil that will give me the required protection for the cam's in theses old engines it would be great to know.
 
Thanks,
Jim


Posted By: Jeff Z. NY
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 9:25am
Yes. It will all be in PM I'm sending you tonight.
I had one question {Technical} that I am waiting on an answer to.
I don't want to give you bad info.

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Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 9:31am
Last I heard, diesel oils had the better flat tappet package because many diesels have flat tappets in the individual injection pumps with more load than valves. Also oils to older SAE ratings than the current on have more additive. You can check on the make up of oils by looking up their MSDS which lists percentages of contents.

I think zinc additives when passed out the exhaust mess up catalytic converters is why the latest oils have that minimized.

Gerald J.


Posted By: Jeff Z. NY
Date Posted: 24 Oct 2011 at 9:44am
Got my answer.
Sending you a pm.

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