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Another one going to China

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Topic: Another one going to China

Posted By: JohnCO
Subject: Another one going to China
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 11:36am

A week ago there was an AC crawler, maybe an HD5 on the local Craigslist (Denver). They were asking $2500. The pic showed a DD engine, not too bad a machine but pretty worn tracks. I emailed them asking if it ran. Not yet was the reply. I offered $1,000 for it as is. Got a e mail today saying my offer was the best they had so they are selling it for scrap. I emailed back, asking what the scrap offer was and asking if they had to cut it up and haul it to the scraper, (at least 40 miles away). Tried to call but could only leave a message. I really hate to see another AC go to China but to lots of people money is everything.
Just my rant!

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Posted By: demodriver
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2011 at 10:18pm

My hd16m is probably also going over seas. I hate to do it but the money just dont make since to fix it IMO

Posted By: GBACBFan
Date Posted: 22 Oct 2011 at 10:47pm

I think it irritates a seller when a potential buyer offers a price less than scrap value. They perceive that has that potential buyer trying to screw them, and they'll make an effort not to sell it to them to make a point.

Now if the potential buyer offers more than scrap value and the seller scaps it out for less than the offer from the potential buyer, that's a little harder to understand. The one thing that's for sure, if it goes for scrap the seller will never have anyone coming back on him with, "This ain't right." or, "That don't work." Selling for scrap is a risk free sale for the seller.

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Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 23 Oct 2011 at 12:58am

The guy called me the next day. doesn't know much about dozers. Said it is about 20,000 lb with the blade. Must be a bigger machine then an HD5, said it's nearly 8' wide. Didn't ask but the pic looks like a 3 71 Detroit. Hasn't run in 40 years, they cut trees 6+" in dia growing around the machine. He said they seemed to have power to the starter but it wouldn't turn over even though the engine turned with a wrench. I suggested he hook up two batteries with 24 volts. It's probably worth $2,500 as scrap but I suggested he call a construction machine parts yard that's closer then Denver. At least that way some parts might help other people out. He was hoping to get it to run, just for his own satisfaction and because his Bobcat can barely lift the blade, much less move the machine. If he can get it to run then maybe it will drive it's self onto the trailer. Would make it worth more to a salvage yard also. Haven't heard back yet. It's too big for me anyway.

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Posted By: LoggerLee
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 9:24am

I offered $1000 for a machine that would have brought $1400 in scrap,the thing that guy didn't seem to understand is that I have a 600mile round trip,and loading a defunct dozer ain't easy,he'd asked $1000 to start with,but then the punk did the math and figured he wasn't asking enough. Told me it was $1400 or off to the scrapper,I laughed at him,told him everyone needed the experience of battling one of those onto the trailer and getting to the scrap yard just to find it didn't weigh what they thought it should.

(and if you don't drain it they won't take it,at least our yard won't)

I judge him harshly.

Posted By: Breeze
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 9:34am

lots of idiots out there. I was at salvage yard lat year when a fellow drove a long wheel base 70 ford up on the scales. I followed and when the boy drove into yard he took battery out and then walked back up onto scales with battery and was weighed out of yard. I weighed out and went inside to find out the boy sold for scrap at the price of $235. The junkyard immediately loaded onto another customers trailer and sold it out of the yard for $400. Said the buyer wanted the motor, 4 speed tranny and rear-end. good deal for both buyers.

Posted By: LoggerLee
Date Posted: 07 Dec 2011 at 9:52am

Yeah,too bad the seller wasn't thinking,he could have sold the engine and tranny,and sold the rest to the scrapper.

Some people get that sly look when you explain what you're going to do,then once you explain it most figure it out.

I bought a red crawler that weighs about 10 tons,that's $2400 here in scrap at the time I bought it (I'm not scrapping it though) He wanted $2000 and figured that was fair,I explained that that was fair,for a running tractor,and this particular one had two frozen steering clutches and wouln't turn either way,so I was going to have to work my rear off to get it loaded,and loading it once I got it lined up was going to be semi terrifying,after some explaining I paid $1500,and we were both okay with that.

Since he wasn't capable of hauling it to the yard,and a scrapper wasn't going to tangle butt with that tractor where it was and not steering for a $400 "profit" (gross of course,not counting fuel and time) He wasn't going to do better,and I got a good sized dozer for a good price.