steam engines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Topic: steam engines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted By: acwdwcman
Subject: steam engines!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2011 at 8:02am
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who here has a steam engine or has drove and operated one. what kinds? ------------- wd with a freeman model 90 trip loader, wd45, 38 unstylled wc, b 10 garden tractor and 2-14 ac trip plow. grandpa has a 56 wd45. wd. allis chalmers snap coupler blade and 3 bottom snap coupler plow |
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Posted By: Charles (KY)
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2011 at 9:16am
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Have an Advance |
Posted By: acwdwcman
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2011 at 9:17am
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what size
------------- wd with a freeman model 90 trip loader, wd45, 38 unstylled wc, b 10 garden tractor and 2-14 ac trip plow. grandpa has a 56 wd45. wd. allis chalmers snap coupler blade and 3 bottom snap coupler plow |
Posted By: Charles (KY)
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2011 at 9:20am
| 22 hp Traction engine |
Posted By: JoeO(CMO)
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2011 at 9:21am
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My granddad had a Case 65hp, heard many stories of it on a saw mill. Now I have aspirations of building one but can't get away from tractors....what's a person to do? ------------- |
Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2011 at 9:49am
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I'm a liscensed op... and I operate EVERY ONE I CAN!!!. Here's one that a buddy has... and has been working on it for a while... http://www.todengine.org/Default.aspx?pageId=631283 He's got some others, as well as a locomotive, and some other neat stuff. |
Posted By: Kcgrain
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2011 at 11:46am
| I have a 750 hp Allis Chalmers Reynolds Corliss engine with generator, but have not a clue how to run it |
Posted By: acwdwcman
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2011 at 12:01pm
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well i go to a local show were i operate a 80hp case w/duals, 2 of 3 canadian reeves left in existance, and have operated a keck-gonnerman steam engine that was resently sold on smokstak.com.. the huy that runs this show owns all of the steam engines their. he owns 1 of 2 reeves highwheelers that doesnt run. and a autman taylor tractor. i have messing with steam traction engines for only 3 years and im 14 now!.... ------------- wd with a freeman model 90 trip loader, wd45, 38 unstylled wc, b 10 garden tractor and 2-14 ac trip plow. grandpa has a 56 wd45. wd. allis chalmers snap coupler blade and 3 bottom snap coupler plow |
Posted By: David Gibson (OH)
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2011 at 12:01pm
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Our annual reunion has a bunch of steam. Click the link below for more info. ------------- David Gibson http://www.darkecountysteam.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.darkecountysteam.com 1956 WD45 |
Posted By: acwdwcman
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2011 at 12:53pm
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this summer im planning on going to mount pleasent iowa for the big steam show ------------- wd with a freeman model 90 trip loader, wd45, 38 unstylled wc, b 10 garden tractor and 2-14 ac trip plow. grandpa has a 56 wd45. wd. allis chalmers snap coupler blade and 3 bottom snap coupler plow |
Posted By: AllisChalmers37
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2011 at 1:04pm
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That is one thing that I've never seen in person. I have always loved the old steam locomotives and a steam tractor is basically a steam locomotive on tractor wheels. None of the shows around here that I've been to have had a steam tractor. By all of the photos and videos I've seen of them they look pretty awesome.
------------- 1937 WC, 1950 CA, 1959 D14, 1967 190XT, 2006 Ram 3500 |
Posted By: Charles (KY)
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2011 at 3:33pm
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Am looking for someone to paint this one. Not looking so much as a restoration but just to keep in from rusting away. Last time it was fired up was 1985 although I did put in new flues and ran it a couple of days taking the family for rides. It is still free as of a couple of years ago. Any info on someone to do this would be appreciated. |
Posted By: Rfdeere
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2011 at 4:22pm
Do you have it set up ? Where did it come from ? ------------- Randy Freshour,Member Indiana AC Partners, http://www.rumelyallis.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.rumelyallis.com |
Kcgrain wrote:Posted By: rob(ont)
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2011 at 5:02pm
| Have operated a 20 Waterloo (a sweet running engine) and a 25 George White. Now own, (or should I say it owns me) the White. It is currently awaiting a new boiler. |
Posted By: WhiskeySup
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2011 at 5:31pm
| Always lots of steam at the Lanesvill In. Heritage Festival. This year it is Sept. 9-11. Lots of vintage tractors, stationary engines, demonstrations and horse drawn plowing competitions. I get a big charge out of those huge steam tractors. |
Posted By: Billoh
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2011 at 6:34pm
I have 2 Bakers ,her is one of them.
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Posted By: Billoh
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2011 at 6:46pm
| That picture was taken at the Malabar farm show ,which they don't have any more.I have a boiler license & state inspected engine.They gave me 180 lb, which is what it came from the factory with. |
Posted By: kffischer
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2011 at 11:18pm
uniflow! interesting exhaust note under load. karl f almost enough hours for MN hobby boiler license
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Posted By: David Gibson (OH)
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2011 at 11:28pm
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Last year at our show (Darke County Steam Threshers) we had the first Baker and the last Baker, a Baker steam roller and a Baker tractor. ------------- David Gibson http://www.darkecountysteam.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.darkecountysteam.com 1956 WD45 |
Posted By: SHAMELESS
Date Posted: 30 Apr 2011 at 11:43pm
| ya'll wanna see sumthin steamin and boilin....it's my ole lady....oooops....i mean my sometimes loving wife....when i gits home late! |
Posted By: Okiejohn
Date Posted: 01 May 2011 at 12:20am
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Next weekend is the tractor show at Pawnee, OK, haven't made it in several years now, but there used to be LOTS of steam there. It started out as an all-steam show, then went to antique tractors and everything else being welcome, too. They have, or at least they used to have, one of those big A-C steam engines, and a Corliss generator that used to furnish power for a smelter in the area, up until in the 1960's. ------------- Be sure you are right, then go ahead.--Davy Crockett |
Posted By: acwdwcman
Date Posted: 01 May 2011 at 8:25am
 ------------- wd with a freeman model 90 trip loader, wd45, 38 unstylled wc, b 10 garden tractor and 2-14 ac trip plow. grandpa has a 56 wd45. wd. allis chalmers snap coupler blade and 3 bottom snap coupler plow |
Posted By: acwdwcman
Date Posted: 01 May 2011 at 8:27am
   i dont own these but i operate them. i like the 80hp case------------- wd with a freeman model 90 trip loader, wd45, 38 unstylled wc, b 10 garden tractor and 2-14 ac trip plow. grandpa has a 56 wd45. wd. allis chalmers snap coupler blade and 3 bottom snap coupler plow |
Posted By: Kevin(Alabama)
Date Posted: 01 May 2011 at 8:53am
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I have a steam engine made by Schofield Iron works in Macon, Ga. It powered a local cotton gin. I was told it was the equal to a 100 hp electric motor. ------------- "I would die a thousand deaths before I would betray a friend."...Sam Davis, Nov. 27, 1863.....DEO VINDICE |
Posted By: 427435
Date Posted: 01 May 2011 at 10:02am
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If you want to see lots of steam engines working, attend the Western Minnesota Steam Threshers Reunion some time. Besides lots of "ordinary" steam engines, they have real steam powered shovels, derricks, saw mills etc. There's also a steam powered locomotive circling the grounds. http://www.rollag.com/index.php - http://www.rollag.com/index.php ------------- Mark B10 Allis, 917 Allis, 7116 Simplicity, 7790 Simplicity Diesel, GTH-L Simplicity Ignorance is curable-----stupidity is not. |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 01 May 2011 at 10:40am
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There are at least two steam locomotives at WMSTR at Rollag. One standard gauge, and one 15" gauge. There were at least 100 steam tractors at Mt. Pleasant last time I was there, all in steam. More not fired up. The daily tractor parade took three hours running three a breast, over 1000 numbers. Many a smaller Iowa show has a few steam tractors and one or a few shows happen practically each summer weekend. That's also true of Indiana, Missouri, Illinois, Nebraska, Minnesota, and likely Wisconsin. Rollag does cover more acres than Mt. Pleasant, but I didn't think had as many tractors. Gerald J. |
Posted By: JoeM(GA)
Date Posted: 01 May 2011 at 10:51am
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ya'll need to ride down our way for Steam! from last years 4th of July Parade - http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d84/Joecdeere/2010%204th%20of%20July%20Parade/?albumview=slideshow - http://s33.photobucket.com/albums/d84/Joecdeere/2010%204th%20of%20July%20Parade/?albumview=slideshow ------------- Allis Express North Georgia 41 WC,48 UC Cane,7-G's, Ford 345C TLB |
Posted By: Don M SEIA
Date Posted: 01 May 2011 at 6:04pm
| Welcome to Old Threshers. http://www.oldthreshers.org/ - http://www.oldthreshers.org and http://www.stubert.info/visitors.html - http://www.stubert.info/visitors.html . Don |
Posted By: Ken in Texas
Date Posted: 01 May 2011 at 6:32pm
| The closest thing to a steam engine I have run is not one big enough to ride on. Its a Stuart Turner 5A model engine about 16 inches tall that runs nice and smooth on compressed air. What I read about them is they are about 1.5 hp at 100 psi and will power a small boat. It has the forward and reverse feature. |
Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 01 May 2011 at 8:40pm
| There is a Reeves with near new boiler for sale near Hopkinsville, KY. Widow owns it and it is for sale. I think around 100 HP or so. Im sure some dealers in the area wilkl know how to contact owner. I was at a sale there a few years ago. Hilpiper conducted auction.HTH Tracy Martin |
Posted By: Charles (KY)
Date Posted: 01 May 2011 at 8:51pm
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Tracy wasn't the Reeves the 2 cylinder that sold for around $150,000? |
Posted By: acwdwcman
Date Posted: 01 May 2011 at 9:17pm
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when exactly did it sell and who bought it? ------------- wd with a freeman model 90 trip loader, wd45, 38 unstylled wc, b 10 garden tractor and 2-14 ac trip plow. grandpa has a 56 wd45. wd. allis chalmers snap coupler blade and 3 bottom snap coupler plow |
Posted By: Charles (KY)
Date Posted: 01 May 2011 at 9:36pm
| I think that sale was at least 2 or 3 years ago. The owner had died and his widow was selling most of the engines, threshers and plows. He had several traction engines and stationary engines. I don't remember who bought it but I remember he wasn't from here. A lot of the people at the sale were from out of town. The big engine had just been inspected and was still being put back together. I went to buy a plow for our engine. Couldn't touch the price though. Beautiful engine though. |
Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 01 May 2011 at 10:08pm
| Pretty sure it is a Reeves. As of last Saturday it was still there.It was not sold at the auction sale 3 or 4 years ago. The engine is valued at 225 thousand or better. Probably one of the best in this country. There was a 12 or 15 bottom plow at the sale he pulled with that engine. Previous owner farmed with these engines. Died in his sleep. HTH Tracy Martin |
Posted By: morton(pa)
Date Posted: 01 May 2011 at 10:25pm
| I've been trying to get into Rough and Tumbles steam school for the past couple of years. It fills up quick!!! Haven't got a chance yet but I'd love to run a Peerless, Baker, or Geiser (spelling?) some day. |
Posted By: JimIA
Date Posted: 01 May 2011 at 11:19pm
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I have operated a few at our local show, but only for a few minutes here and there. Im not licensed and have a lot to learn to do so. I always try to get time to steer one once in a while. Have asisted on two Advance Rumelys, a 23-90 Baker Uni-Flo, and a Port Huron. Would love to have more time with them but there never seems to be a shortage of licensed operators at the show, so I assist in other work there. Steam engines are my first love in tractors, but dont have the $$$ to own one. Heres a few videos ive done. [TUBE]ztEewU7eADo[/TUBE] [TUBE]oicpqo3Gd9Y[/TUBE] I have a few videos from our local show that I need to upload. Jim |
Posted By: Don M SEIA
Date Posted: 03 May 2011 at 10:18am
| Good pictures and video. Old Threshers will feature AC in 2012 , any year that year, would like see alot of impelments and stuff. |
Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 03 May 2011 at 12:29pm
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Last I knew Mt. Pleasant had a steam school too. Always thought it might be interesting to go just to learn. Proper steam engine operation is a dying art.
I have two toy engines. One is a Mamod that you have to actually have a fire under it's boiler. The other one is a very old toy that has an electric heater in it's boiler. Seems like it's a Jensen brand. ------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford |
Posted By: Don M SEIA
Date Posted: 03 May 2011 at 3:03pm
| They had their steam school last weekend. They are talking about adding more capacity, because it fills up fast. I also have an electric Jensen. |
Posted By: Don M SEIA
Date Posted: 03 May 2011 at 3:19pm
| call 319-385-8937 for the 2012 school. If you go the Events tab on the Old Threshers web site. http://www.oldthreshers.org/ - http://www.oldthreshers.org there is a listing of steam school to go to. Do you come to Old Threshers ? Don |
Posted By: acwdwcman
Date Posted: 03 May 2011 at 8:02pm
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i will be going to old threshers next year i cant make it this year. it would be nice to take a tractor next year for the a-c feature. what kind of steam engines are they featuring.
At some local show there is some steam not alot though, in jacksonville illinois there is a show there and there is a undermount avery, huber ?size?, advance, a homemade road locomotive, and some others but i like the avery.
at jerseyville they have 2 canaidian reeves, 80hp case, (the ones i posted pictures of earlier) reeves high wheeler, used to have a keck-gonnerman, and a small scale advance. ------------- wd with a freeman model 90 trip loader, wd45, 38 unstylled wc, b 10 garden tractor and 2-14 ac trip plow. grandpa has a 56 wd45. wd. allis chalmers snap coupler blade and 3 bottom snap coupler plow |
Posted By: Bill Long
Date Posted: 03 May 2011 at 8:34pm
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Late in the summer season the Maryland Steam Historical Society has a Steam Show at Arcadia, MD. The Almish came from Lancaster County to run the engines. There were steam powered saw mills and other applications. I went to it around 1958 and remember seeing a huge array of steam power. All running very well.
I understand that this show still is in operation. In fact, Fred attended it last year.
They have a Web Site. Look it up at Google under Arcadia Steam.
They have a show Sept 15 - 18.
Enjoy!
Good Luck!
Bill Long
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Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 03 May 2011 at 9:57pm
WOW!! That there is some heavy metal Dave. That would be sompin to see for sure. ------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: CTuckerNWIL
Date Posted: 03 May 2011 at 9:59pm
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And how big a boiler does it take to make it turn that flywheel at speed?
------------- http://www.ae-ta.com" rel="nofollow - http://www.ae-ta.com Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
Posted By: MARK W (NY)
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 9:10pm
| http://youtu.be/Ecww1AmE3Ow - http://youtu.be/Ecww1AmE3Ow This is a link to the allis coreliss engine at the pageant of Steam in Canandagiua NY . This used to power, I believe Macinac island in MI.if i remember correctly. They got it running in 2004 for the gathering of the orange. |
Posted By: Dennis IL
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 9:19pm
| I don't want to get too far off subject here but Did anybody happen to see on modern marvles or could have been History channel last night the show STEAM! they went to Jay Leno's place and showed his steam cars as well as his stationary steam engines including a corliss! NO JOKE! he has one A BIG ONE! |
Posted By: Don M SEIA
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 9:51pm
| If this works it is a utube of the AC 750hp Steam water pump, called Marshall ,because it used pump water for the city of Marshalltown, Iowa. http://youtu.be/u41sah-rRO8 - http://youtu.be/u41sah-rRO8 |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 11:10pm
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Most shows that have big Corliss engines don't put a load on them and don't run them at rated speed so they don't take so much boiler. At least at Mt. Pleasant,IA, Rollag,MN, and Waukee, IA that's the case. And running slow with no load they can set the valves for a short burst of steam each stroke and get full expansion. Gerald J. |
Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 04 May 2011 at 11:22pm
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I go to Mt.Pleasant every couple of years.Great show,demonstrations,museums,Trains,Tractors,Steam Engines,Little bit of everything.Great place to spend a day.Glad to hear A/C will be featured tractor for 2012. Finally be able to see a D-17 there.Always had a 57 cut off for some reason.Plenty of orange there usually though. ------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |
Posted By: Don M SEIA
Date Posted: 05 May 2011 at 1:37pm
| Are any of you on facebook, I put some steam engine pictures on it. Don Mathews Danville, IA |
Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 05 May 2011 at 10:02pm
------------- "Any man who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the government take care of him better take a closer look at the American Indian." Henry Ford |
Posted By: Don M SEIA
Date Posted: 05 May 2011 at 11:38pm
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I live 15 miles from it. I'm there everyday, and pullout and putback days. Same for my wife. |
Posted By: Don M SEIA
Date Posted: 06 May 2011 at 11:04pm
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Brian , I'm pretty sure mine is reversible, it's been a while since I've had it steamed up. I remember take it to school to demonstrate.
If you or anybody gets to Old Threshers , give me a call 319-572-0914, I help with the steam and tractor threshing at 10 &3 each day, west of the tractor area.
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Posted By: roughstock
Date Posted: 08 May 2011 at 8:28am
This is the biggest steam traction engine I have ever seen. It's an Avery shown at the Buckley Old Engine show in Buckley, MI. |
Posted By: acwdwcman
Date Posted: 08 May 2011 at 9:00am
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the biggest ive ever seen was a 110 hp case at a show in pickneville illinois ------------- wd with a freeman model 90 trip loader, wd45, 38 unstylled wc, b 10 garden tractor and 2-14 ac trip plow. grandpa has a 56 wd45. wd. allis chalmers snap coupler blade and 3 bottom snap coupler plow |
Posted By: JR Maley
Date Posted: 10 May 2011 at 12:50pm
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Heres mine http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBLoDL2Nj1Y - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBLoDL2Nj1Y http://www.youtube.com/user/13maley#p/u/9/TBLoDL2Nj1Y -
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Posted By: Brad Kelley
Date Posted: 11 May 2011 at 1:05pm
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Here is my 1903 J.I. Case traction engine. It is the smallest size traction engine produced by Case and weighs about 10,000 lbs dry. It was advertised by Case as a "9 HP" tractor, however at that time they literally rated their tractors as doing the work of X many horses. The engine proper actually develops about 30 brake HP at 250 RPM and at full boiler pressure (125 PSI) and after about 1910 the factories started rating the tractors by brake HP or by drawbar HP. We are allowed to run at a max of 100 PSI due to Virginia law and the design of our boiler (riveted lap seam barrel), but the condition of the boiler is good enough to safely operate at the original 125 PSI.
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I also have an 18-50 HP return flue Huber that is awaiting restoration. It weighs about 20,000 lbs dry. I had to buy a D19D to be able to move that engine around my yard because my D14 just didn't have the weight.
 I've run a Huber at the Berryville, VA show that is exacly like mine:
 I've run a number of other traction engines at shows including:
25 HP Advance Rumely
10 HP Gaar-Scott
40-120 HP Geiser Peerless
36-120 HP Rumely
28 HP Sawyer-Massey
110 HP Best
50 HP Case
18 HP Avery
40-120 HP Avery
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Posted By: Brad Kelley
Date Posted: 11 May 2011 at 1:09pm
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For those interested in the huge Corliss engines; the Field Day of the Past show in Richmond, VA powers their sawmill with their Corliss engine. I have a short video of the valve motion on that engine, but unfortunately it doesn't show the whole setup. You can hear the saw in the log and see the engine's governor open up the valves to admit more steam. They power the engine with a large trailer mounted industrial package boiler.
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Posted By: JohnCO
Date Posted: 11 May 2011 at 2:08pm
Jay is always joking about having a BIG ONE but I didn't realize it was a steam engine! ------------- "If at first you don't succeed, get a bigger hammer" Allis Express participant |
Posted By: Gerald J.
Date Posted: 11 May 2011 at 7:02pm
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There's a Corliss engine inside at the Sakamia Co Washington Historical Society Museum at Stevenson Washington. I saw it a couple days ago. They run it with an electric motor on occasion, but they do have a boiler next to it. Gerald J. |