D-14 throttle woes
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Topic: D-14 throttle woes
Posted By: jaybmiller
Subject: D-14 throttle woes
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2010 at 10:05am
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Hello. Just got my new carb link spring from Sandy Lake and installed...
problem..Even at idle position, engine runs fast..no speed control.
I've attached the spring onto the #2 manifold stud ( from front)...
Any ideas where I've screwed up this time !
Thnaks for any ideas.
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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)
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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2010 at 12:03pm
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I just compared setup to my 57 D-14, the 59 has a 'plug of plastic?' inside the govenor spring but the 57 doesn't.
Changed carbs while I'm watching the rain come down, and without the carb link spring I can idle,mid range,fast speed real nice. As soon as I put the spring on , it goes full throttle as the spring pulls the carb linkage forward towards the rad.
Sure hope someone can help. It has tons of power,pull 3 bottom plow great...
Thanks
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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)
Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water
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Posted By: Chuck(ONT)
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2010 at 12:52pm
As i recall from my D14, the spring went toward the rear. Have you tried that?
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Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2010 at 9:30pm
Chuck, that might be the choke return spring you are referring to. The anti surge spring should go upwards. Try it on stud #3 from the front. It should not have much tension on it.
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Posted By: Jack(Ky)
Date Posted: 30 Nov 2010 at 10:35pm
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It has to go towards the back. If it is hooked to #2 then it would have to pull the throttle open I would think. This spring is just the anti surge spring and does not need to have much tension on it. Order a D15 Series 2 govenor spring for it and you will see a noticable improvement in performance. Actually it may already have one. The original D14 spring will be made from a lot lighter wire than the D15 series 2.JP
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Posted By: Brian Jasper co. Ia
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 5:18am
Sounds like you have more than a spring problem. You might want to take the cover off the governor and have a look at the weights and arm.
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Posted By: Lonn
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 5:32am
The spring should have little tension and it shouldn't pull forward or backward but pretty much straight up. If it leans forward or backward, it isn't by much.
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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 6:51am
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It now makes sense where that spring is supposed to be.Itty bitty thing and I've never seen a real official picture of it properly installed.Both '57 and '59 D-14s had huge springs fastned in different spots!
Now to get it fixed before the wife wants 'her' garage back to put the car in,'ol man Winter's coming soon !
Thanks guys, as always lots of great info and support! Too bad the rest of the World wasn't so nice and considerate !
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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)
Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water
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Posted By: jaybmiller
Date Posted: 01 Dec 2010 at 12:40pm
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Got her running great again ! Although I couldn't find what to tie the other end of the spring to as the exhaust part of the manifold is right above, so I looped it around the block draincock spigot thing behind the carb.
Also installed the opmeter from Sandy Lake today as well..
Started to snow too...
Guess 2 out of 3 is good!
Thanks again guys
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3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112
Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor)
Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water
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