433T into a D17
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Topic: 433T into a D17
Posted By: chilli-town
Subject: 433T into a D17
Date Posted: 25 May 2026 at 11:03am
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i bought a F2 engine ,thinking about putting in a D17 series 1 I was wondering if the block will clear the power steering on the right side. I also have a D17 series 3 and a WD45 I could use. just a toy maybe pull some silage wagons. Thanks for any input
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 25 May 2026 at 7:04pm
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Lot's of things don't work without serious changes. You cannot have power steering unless you change it over to a hydrostatic system. If it is a gas chassis, the clutch shaft is technically too long. I had a long post in the farm equipment section about 6 years ago "D-17 XT" that covered most of the struggles. If you have a diesel chassis, things are easier, starting with your flywheel and clutch bolt right on to the combine engine and the clutch shaft is shorter.
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Posted By: Birhta2
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2026 at 9:25pm
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Ever seen a d17 with other motors swapped in? Like a 353 dd or others?
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 03 Aug 2026 at 10:27pm
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All I've ever seen is a couple of 433-T or TI's or many G-230/G-262, which drop right in a diesel chassis. I do know where there is one with a G-2800/301 gasser and the steering was an issue with it too. I did see a picture of one that had a 433-T and manual steering using a small 1/2" drive socket set knuckle to get by the left front corner of the engine. I'm sorry, but if I'm going to all the trouble to swap to a newer more powerful engine, I AM going to have power steering!!!
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Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2026 at 8:27am
If you could find a BUDA 273 from a Cockshutt you would have a much more durable engine than an Allis Diesel because you wouldn't have the sleeve problem and very few could tell that the engine was changed.
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 04 Aug 2026 at 8:57am
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I've always felt the D-262 wet-sleeve decision was because the dealer organization had been using them since 1934. So, the sales team/engineering team almost had to stay with that feature. A bad decision in the end.
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