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Dream tractor

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Printed Date: 29 Jan 2026 at 1:18pm
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Topic: Dream tractor
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Subject: Dream tractor
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2026 at 7:54am
Someone on the Red board started a thread like this. Couldn't help myself, had to do some dreaming. The one I 'dreamed up'. 

A WD 45 with a 5.9 Cummins, 12 speed power-shift, 185 final drives, and 20.8x34's. Upon further reflection, might even throw in a diesel ring and pinion. It would be plenty fast with the 5.9 and 20.8's!

I realize this is true fantasy but hey, it would be fun!



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Posted By: DanielW
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2026 at 8:31am
I always thought the best of all worlds for the tractors I'm used to would be an Allis 180/185 engine, front-end, hydraulic system, and layout (with their high-up platform seating position), but have the 8-speed tranny and rear end from a Ford 5000/6600 - including the independent PTO. Though I'd keep the Allis draft control system over the Ford's, and wouldn't mind the PD as well. I love the Allis 6 cyl, seating position, layout, hydraulics and look of the 180. But those Ford trannys and rear-ends were uber-bulletproof and could be abused to heck without issue. I'm quite certain if any of our Allis's were abused like our Fords have been for logging and working in the gravel pit, we would have had jumping gear issues and rear end failures years ago. But our Fords keep taking the abuse without complaint - well over 10k hours. I'd far rather be sitting on an Allis however: They sure got layout and hydraulic system right when they designed the 180.

I'd probably also have 30" rears on there, as I always thought the 180's looked a little too squat on the back with the stock 28's.


Posted By: youngorange2000
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2026 at 11:15am
Mine would be if the 100 series had true clutch pedal independent live pto


Posted By: HudCo
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2026 at 9:59am
ibwd mike carry that one step farther  shorten up the steering relocate the battery and put the super deluxe seat up on a flat floor


Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2026 at 12:44pm
Not today but IF in the 1960-70's - Start off with the IV D17 (170) - change the torque housing to accept the 7000 wet type PTO and power director clutch 3 speed - remove 1st gear to allow for syncros and move the PD torque gears down a bit. Use the 3 speed for a 9 speed trans - put disc brakes on as some of the pullers have done and power it with the 4.33T as in the 6060 - the a 2800 at 75 HP for the pullers to be legal -  then 4.33I  up to 85 PTO - switch to the bar axle to with the 301 at 105 and 118 HP as in the 7000 -  

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