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Topic: dump truck vs train, guess who wins
Posted By: jaybmiller
Subject: dump truck vs train, guess who wins
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2025 at 8:18pm
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Every time I see this I have to laugh ! OK, maybe I have a warped sense of funny at 72 ??


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Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2025 at 8:49pm
People frequently fail to understand the reality of their surroundings...


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Posted By: Coke-in-MN
Date Posted: 27 Nov 2025 at 10:10pm
Years back I bought a 70 series GMC tandem dump truck that got hit by a train , guy was crossing tracks into his yard and truck quit , he went to get tractor to move it but train came along and hit truck - wiped most of it out , 
RR filed suit against him - then found out the engineer had been smoking weed while running engine . Both called it a wash and said to forget even a accident report .

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Posted By: DiyDave
Date Posted: 28 Nov 2025 at 4:43am
Originally posted by Coke-in-MN Coke-in-MN wrote:

Years back I bought a 70 series GMC tandem dump truck that got hit by a train , guy was crossing tracks into his yard and truck quit , he went to get tractor to move it but train came along and hit truck - wiped most of it out , 
RR filed suit against him - then found out the engineer had been smoking weed while running engine . Both called it a wash and said to forget even a accident report .

In today's sue happy world what are the odds of that happening?

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Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2025 at 11:57am
Likelyhood of ever being employed on RR property if ever showing positive is slim nowdays....

But when a vehicle is stuck on a crossing, the likelyhood of a train having enough sightline distance to stop is also very slim. If the stuck vehicle is fortunate enough to electrically short the running rails together, the trackway signalling system, and locomotive's in cab signalling reciever might detect an 'occupied block' before sightline, and achieve a safe stop.

So here's a tip... if you ever see someone stranded on the right-of-way, grab something metal... a piece of wire, conduit, etc,, even your jumper cables... and use it to short the rails together.

Don't worry, It won't be much voltage or current... but if there's crossing gates nearby, you'll hear the bells sound, lights go on, and arms come down.   Atb the same time, railway signal lights in both directions will change red, and further out, yellow... and if they have in-cab signalling, the trains' console indicators will show the same... giving precious time to get stopped, or at least slowed significantly, sooner.

Oh, and don't do this as a prank... it's a federal offense, and you'll be paying big fines in jail for a while... but in an emergency, it can save lots of lives and damage.

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Posted By: Ray54
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2025 at 12:49pm
Stopping to near the limit line at a train crossing is a Federal Offence that 20 years ago carried a $1000 FINE. Had occasion to sit in traffic court, the judge was giving all kinds of breaks to everyone. His words to the person stopping to close, everything with the railroad is federal and we are not given any ability to adjust the fines. So I could see them being very tuff on vandalism to the signal system. 


Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2025 at 5:20pm
Being within, or near the operating envelope of the right-of-way when a train comes through, is legally 'tresspassing'... and when it comes to incursions, They ARE tough on it... however, shunting rails to affect an emergency signal, in the time of a genuine emergency is NOT considered a violation or vandalism.  It is unfortunate that many public safety services (police, fire, ambulance) aren't taught this.  In most cases, if seminars are held by public safety that include railroad Right Of Way emergency management, the railway instructor will not only include how to trigger the signalling, but also identify which dispatch center responds to emergencies in given areas (control blocks), and what numbers to call to reach THAT dispatch controller's console... so that when they see the signal come up on what they WOULD expect to be an unoccupied block, they'll recognize the incoming phone call's validity (rather than some sort of a malfunction)... and then they'll get radio calls and train order notices up immediately.

That's the big thing about railroads (and air traffic controllers)- is that time is NEVER on their side... they get an emergency call, and the very, very, very first thing they need to know, is WHERE the issue is, EXACTLY... as in, what track, what direction, etc., and after that, who the caller is, and the situation.  Depending on what they have for track signalling, they may, or may not have anything appear on their console (nowdays more than say, when I was teaching this 30 years ago...), but the sooner that info is conveyed, the sooner they can get messages out to the crews and avoid tragedy. 

Putting a train into E-stop frequently winds up with flattened wheels, and if they're dragging, they easily slide across and bump up over the flange onto the ties.  Even without striking something, the cost of repairing flattened wheels and gouged rails exceeds $100,000, so having advanced warning and affecting a gentle stop in time, saves a considerable amount of money.  Collisions routinely exceed $1M in damage.  Railroads won't go after quick-thinking individuals that save them considerable losses.


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