Another 190XT
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Printed Date: 19 Jun 2025 at 10:44am
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Topic: Another 190XT
Posted By: TedN
Subject: Another 190XT
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2025 at 12:18pm
This tractor is the one that made me realize I visited this forum a lot and should just join. I was trying to figure out what the cab was, it took a while to sink in that homemade is the correct answer. I have the water pump changed, and after cleaning a little around the front of the engine I found that tha front main leaks a lot. Not a lot of time or shop space to work on it now, so I'll try to pick and choose small fields to run it a bit this summer to see if other things might need repair. Couple of worrying things - it needs starting fluid to start. Bought it in January, expected it then and it started right off after the hour ride home. In June i would expect it to start, but not even smoke until the starting fluid. It doesn't seem to have blowby, so it may have been from sitting. It also starts to sound like the engine is working after running fifteen minutes or so, slows down a little and changes pitch, this while running about 1000rpm. Again, probably things that will either make the problem known or go away as I run it and get used to it.   If you look you can see that whoever put the cab on also had to move most of the controls. Future plans are get the correct batteries in the correct place, get the wheels turned back around, clean up the wiring, and see what else I need to do this winter. Ted ------------- 190XTD seriesIII, 190XTD seriesI, maroon belly 7000, 190XTD series??? project(or maybe parts) |
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Posted By: Ky.Allis
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2025 at 12:56pm
| I like the steps. |
Posted By: TedN
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2025 at 1:20pm
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I addded those, it had an angle iron bolted to the side of the battery box near the bottom. I still need to add a brace to the battery box. They are a replacement/ update that I was going to put on my JD4430, but after using them a bit on this I'm not sure how much of an update they are. Easier to get in and out of this one now, but in comparison the 7000 is easier to get in and out. Ted ------------- 190XTD seriesIII, 190XTD seriesI, maroon belly 7000, 190XTD series??? project(or maybe parts) |
Posted By: Codger
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2025 at 1:25pm
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Engine may be tired. A compression, or leakdown test will tell you a lot. Ether to start is usually a sign of compression abnormally low, timing retarded quite a bit, or fuel injection rate near zero. You don't mention the engine being abnormally degraded on output power, but I'd bet it is. Given the oil leaks mentioned, it may be best to entertain an engine rebuild over the winter so it's fresh for the next season. ------------- That's All Folks! |
Posted By: calico190xt68
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2025 at 3:23pm
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That cab took a lot of time and effort. Those odd shaped windows are a curiosity to me. That guy was proud of that I am sure. No windshield wiper but with that extreme angle may not be necessary. At first I thought the roof was off of Laporte Cab but then maybe not. I guess it never had a door. Hope it starts running better for you but that's not the luck I have. ------------- 80 7010, 80 7020. 67 190XTD Series I w/500 Loader, AC 2000 Plow, Member Indiana A-C Partners, Member TAC |
Posted By: injpumpEd
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2025 at 5:02pm
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Sounds to me like it just needs a fuel system freshening. The oil could be fuel diluted too causing the front seal leak. Cranking and no smoke is usually an injection pump and injectors issue. We get that tuned up it'll probably run fine again! I certainly would not be pulling the head off and opening that can or worms if I didn't have to. ------------- 210 "too hot to farm" puller, part of the "insane pumpkin posse". Owner of Guenther Heritage Diesel, specializing in fuel injection systems on heritage era tractors. stock rebuilds to all out pullers! |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2025 at 5:57pm
| 38 inch rubbers ?? |
Posted By: TedN
Date Posted: 18 Jun 2025 at 11:49pm
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calico, you are right about that cab being a lot of effort, every corner in it is gusseted, upper and lower. And it does have half hinges arond the back and top of the door, not sure gravity would be your friend if there were a door mounted on them. The roof has a ridge running the length of it, so entirely possible it is from a donor cab. I hope Ed is right about it being a fuel system issue, it seemed like the timing might have been moving around when I ran it the other day, not sure if that is a possibility with the Roosa pump. And yes,this one has 15.x38 rears. My other running 190XT has 14.9x38s, it had 12.4x38s when I bought it. The only other two 190XTs that I have seen have 18.4x34s, thought it was odd that mine had 38s. I came to the conclusion last year that someone had put 7000 wheels on it(don't know if that is possible, never looked into it) and then I found this one. I also stumbled across a D17D series IV a couple months ago that has 13.6x38 rears, so I'm starting to think it must have been an option. ------------- 190XTD seriesIII, 190XTD seriesI, maroon belly 7000, 190XTD series??? project(or maybe parts) |
Posted By: AC7060IL
Date Posted: 19 Jun 2025 at 9:17am
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TedN, welcome to the AC forum & thanks for sharing your latest 190xt’s photo. It’s cab design may have some merits for central Washington state’s semi-arid climate? It’s “Forward roof” could offers more sun visor duration comfort for operator during mornings & late afternoons? Also field soil dust would most likely shed itself more easily from that heavily slanted windshield glass, especially if engine radiator fan was pushing air back onto it? When operator stood up from seat to exit that cab, they’d most likely been bent forward & so that cabs extra forward space might have offered more head room while exiting cab? The rear fuel tank can sometimes block drawbar view? Operator would sometimes need to lean back to see over fuel tank, so it’s hinged rear window probably opened to offer operator a better views when backing up to & hooking up to implements? Cab’s roof/ ceiling height is much shorter as compared to engine’s hot exhaust gasses & noise, which may deflect sounds & heat away from operator? Same sound deflection from engine noise might apply to its slanted windshield glass? The windshield section of that cab resembles early gleaner cabs (1964-1975?) winshield? That would coincide with a Series I or II XT timeframe? |