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Gleaner K Hydraulic Problem

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Topic: Gleaner K Hydraulic Problem
Posted By: evan austin
Subject: Gleaner K Hydraulic Problem
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2025 at 5:12pm
Hello All,
My name is Evan, this is the first time I've posted on here. Anyway, I'm trying to help a friend diagnose a couple of hydraulic issues with his Gleaner K combine. I don't know the serial # but he said that it is one of the last K's before the K2's came out. The issues are possibly related:
1. The machine is very slow to lift and lower the head. He sent me a video of it and it was probably 25 seconds or more for the head to lower from all the way up to all the way down. If it was only slow going up, I would suspect the pump, but since it is slow both directions, I think it is a flow restriction somewhere. Is there an adjustment for flow control in the valve? He did disconnect the linkage and operated the spool at the valve and there was no change. I told him to check the lines too to make sure there wasn't a spot that was crushed or collapsing, but beyond that or a valve problem I'm not sure where else to look with that one.
2. After about 10 minutes of the engine running, not working the hydraulics just engine running, he said that the pump/reservoir/valve were so hot you couldn't hold your hand on them. My understanding, please correct me if I'm wrong, is that the system on these is "open centered" so there shouldn't be any significant pressure in the system until you move the handle to lift. It sounds like it is dead heading somewhere in the valve stack and making the pump work all the time. 

My hydraulic knowledge isn't the greatest. He is a couple states away from me so I can't easily go look at it is person. He had texted me about it a couple days ago because I'm working on an E, so we were comparing systems over the phone. He said he was going to pull the whole valve stack off and have it checked out, he may have already done that. I appreciate any knowledge and insight I can get from people who know these machines far better than I do. Thank you again, Evan



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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2025 at 5:23pm
The speed of drop is outside the cab window if it has Auto Header height control system.   Overheating oil is usually ALWAYS caused by one of the spools stuck or the cab control linkage stuck going to the spools on the valve stack. You don't say which head is on the machine. I'd guess the reel lift or reel speed spool/linkage isn't in the center or "neutral" causing the oil to heat and this will ruin the hydraulic pump. Disconnect every spools pin and make sure each spool can operate in and out and return to center on it's own.


Posted By: evan austin
Date Posted: 13 Jun 2025 at 5:42pm
The grain header is on it currently, he's wanting to cut oats with it soon. It does not have auto header height. I think it does have hydraulic reel speed and height control. I'll tell him to check his linkages and make sure they aren't out of whack. Thank you for your help


Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2025 at 6:39am
Welcome aboard Evan!!! Good to see you here. Don't be afraid to chime in from time to time.


Posted By: evan austin
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2025 at 8:13am
Thank you, Mike! It's good to be seen! 


Posted By: DSeries4
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2025 at 10:24am
First things first.  Make sure there is enough hydraulic fluid in the reservoir and maybe put a new filter on it.

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Posted By: evan austin
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2025 at 7:00pm
I'm sure he checked the fluid level, I'll suggest a filter if he hasn't done it already. Thanks!


Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2025 at 7:35pm
Don't install the filter upside down !!!



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