Couple questions on an All Crop 90
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Topic: Couple questions on an All Crop 90
Posted By: Collin Moore 2010
Subject: Couple questions on an All Crop 90
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2025 at 4:52am
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I came across an All Crop 90 about an hour and a half north of me and I have a couple questions about it, as I have never been around one before. The guy is asking $1,000 firm. The machine has dual tires, scour klean, extra screens, and a working cylinder RPM gauge. I think it also comes with the original books as well. The owner says it’s ready for the field. To me this sounds like a very solid original machine with lots of add ons. Yes, I know part are scarce for these machines but I would not be running it as like a main machine on the farm, it would be a toy to play with here and there and take to some shows. (My questions) 1. Is an hour and a half close enough to pull the machine home behind a truck? And if so, would I have to make an off set hitch for the truck or does the hitch on the machine swing close enough to the center of mass? 2. Is 30 PTO horsepower enough to operate the machine well in conditions with a green soy bean here and there in the field, but with no weeds? 3. What is the weight of the machine? Thank you! 
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Posted By: Don Jr NY
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2025 at 5:55am
| An hour and a half with just a vehicle is going to be double that pulling the combine. It will travel fine but not at 60 mph. You realistically will only be traveling around 30 mph depending on road conditions. You will need to build an off - set hitch because even with the machine closed it will still stick way out to the left. A 30 hp tractor will be a little light. When they were built 45 to 50 hp was recommended as in a WD-45 or D-17 tractor. The machine weighs around 4650 according to Norm Swinfords book and thats empty weight. The grain bin holds 30 bushel. If you have the bin full of wheat that adds almost another 2000 lbs of weight so you want a decent tractor on the front that can pull that amount of weight while also running the machine. You don't want very soft ground or it will not pull well, the reason it has duals on it. I have had one for over 20 years and mostly just use it for cutting clover seed as they do an excellent job of cleaning and mine also has factory option duals on it. Hope this helps. Any other questions just ask. Don Jr. |
Posted By: Collin Moore 2010
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2025 at 6:56am
| Thank you very much! |
Posted By: Collin Moore 2010
Date Posted: 08 Jun 2025 at 8:00pm
| Good evening! I’ve got another question for you, I just got the guys location and it turns out we are 115 miles apart from each other! Should I still pull it home with an offset hitch on a truck? Or should I throw it up on our gooseneck trailer? We have skid loaders and all sorts of construction equipment to assist with loading and unloading. Now with putting it on a trailer comes legal issues. Do you think it would be easier to take the head off and keep it under, or close to 102 inches wide, or risk it and take back roads all the way home? Then again this is considered “farm use” but it’s risky. I’ve hauled a 66 about an hour and a half on a trailer not that long ago. It worked excellent for me and was way better than pulling it home. What’s your opinion on this? Thanks in advance! Collin |
Posted By: Don Jr NY
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2025 at 5:26am
| I have never had the head off of my 90 so I don't know how difficult it would be. 115 miles is 2 hours at 60mph so will be at least double that if not more pulling the combine. I guess if it were me I would inquire about the cost of an overwidth permit to haul on the trailer intact. If that is not a viable option then I would try to figure out the total time involved with the other 2 options and go with the fastest one. Don Jr. |
Posted By: 560Dennis
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2025 at 9:49am
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I think 1000 is very good price . Look at the cylinder , rock damage, worn bar , cylinder try is rusted out . All the belts. The big shaker belt and the condition of the elevator chain. Is scour clean rust out . All shaft bearings , Condition cutter bar rocker and knife and rock guards . i have a 72 . One emergency the super c ran it for sunflower . So 90 takes a-lot more power as recommended Oh they very weak at the header , so with a 90 i would look all over it forc welded repairs . If possible put a tractor with pto to it and run it. Before you comment i made a offset hitch for my 150 ford to bring it home 15 miles. I uesd back roads and watch out for mail boxes and narrow bridges . I would drive the route before you return
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Posted By: Dirt Farmer
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2025 at 11:28am
| Been a few years ago but I'd load them on a gooseneck trailer, block up under the axle then tie it down and roll on home with it. I only got an oversized load permit when I pulled home a SP100 combine over 300 miles. I never went across scales and never got pulled over, if so I was prepared to claim ignorance. All that said I'd still load it up and haul it home. Less time on the road and having to deal with other drivers, flat tires or overheated babbit bearings on the wheels. If pulling bring a grease gun and extra grease cause the wheel bearings probably aren't sealed roller bearings. Good luck in whatever you choose to do |
Posted By: Allis dave
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2025 at 12:52pm
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I pulled mine 90 home form 2 hours away. Made 4 hours pulling it home. I made an offset hitch moving it over about 1.5'. You wouldn't have to, but it made it easier. It depend on the roads. I know it's doable, but there are alwasy hazards when loading these. Check the cylinder and concave area. Almost every one of these combines I've seen has the concaves rusted out. They are replacable, but take some work. I bought my 90 for 1000 and sold it for 1000. I have a 72 now, but never had time to actually run the 90 or 72. We all have dreams.
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Posted By: Lars(wi)
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2025 at 5:40pm
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Put it on a trailer. It’s summertime, warm weather with more than likely 25+ year old tires, and fighting traffic, no way would I road it. ------------- I tried to follow the science, but it was not there. I then followed the money, and that’s where I found the science. |
Posted By: WF owner
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2025 at 7:12pm
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I pulled a rotobaler home for a (timid) friend a few years ago. Pulling a left-hand implement is different! I would definitely load it. You can probably load it on an angle to reduce the width. How hard would it be to remove the pole after loading it?
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Posted By: DanielW
Date Posted: 09 Jun 2025 at 8:57pm
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I pulled my 90 and one of my 66's home about 80 miles over some very hilly terrain with an older Tacoma. I didn't have an offset hitch and passed through a few towns (and a couple of narrow bridges) with no issue (just keep an eye on oncoming traffic and watch your left side with it's goofy left-hand cut). $1000 sounds like a good price for the condition it's in. Sickle sections are still available new aftermarket (you have to nip the back off them, but there are new sections that work). Guards are also interchangeable with (I think) some off White combines? (I could be misremembering, but I know there are some that work - I bought some a few years ago). And almost all other parts can be made by a local fab shop with a plasma table and brake press. If you're into unique and/or Allis equipment, it sounds like a good deal. But if you're just looking for any pull-type combine to do a few acres with, I've come to begrudgingly realize that the all-crops really weren't all that superb (it pains me to say that as I have three all crops). But (in my opinion) the Oliver, Cockshutt, and even Deere and IH PT combines I've had experience with in more recent years are (in my opinion) more robust units and better for the small-scale grain farmer who's not colour-biased. The two Oliver 18's I've been around in particular are pretty beaten up compared to any of mine, but can cut circles around my 90. |
Posted By: Collin Moore 2010
Date Posted: 10 Jun 2025 at 11:39am
| Thanks for all of the replies guys, I appreciate it! Originally, I was thinking about hauling it, but I think it would be about the same amount of time no matter which way you go with it. The thing with hauling it is you gotta dink around to get it on the trailer and then you gotta risk it home and hope you don’t encounter any Police. On the other hand, we could throw a new set of tires on it and just hit the road home and most likely not have too many troubles. It’s a tossup, that’s for sure. |