Allis B for cultivating
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Topic: Allis B for cultivating
Posted By: KouryFarms
Subject: Allis B for cultivating
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2025 at 6:38am
| I’m looking to buy a small tractor for my market garden to belly mount cultivators. A friend has a Farmall cub and suggested I try finding one but the allis b keeps grabbing my attention instead. My question is, how is the visibility from the driver’s seat ? I know the Farmall is offset. Is the wide double seat on the allis better? Or at least comparable? Other option would be to find a g model but like the versatility of a b model better. Thanks, George |
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Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2025 at 7:19am
| When I was young I cultivated a lot of corn with a B and it did a pretty decent job.Couple of negatives is as you said the visibility factor and 1st gear is too fast especially very small plants.A G is pretty good if it has the extra low gear.The Farmalls are very good because of the visibilty and there are a huge number of accessories available like side dressers,planters,etc.For cultivating I now use a Hines H-1600 which is the best tractor I have ever used to cultivate vegetable type crops,its very much like a G but much improved.It has hydrostatic drive,hydraulic lift with different controls for front and back.The implements go on and off quickly,very comforatable to get on and off,uses 24 inch rear tires.The Tuff Bilt tractors sold now are basically a clone of the Hines. |
Posted By: jvin248
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2025 at 7:53pm
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. Gs and Cubs tend to be expensive, Bs are cheap and plentiful. .
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Posted By: mdm1
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2025 at 8:18pm
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Go look at all 3 if you can. Everything about a G is spendy. But B's can be tough to get on and off of. As said lots of B's around and much cheaper. I think most G's have the creeper gear. Hey just a thought buy a couple. That's what most of us end up doing ------------- Everything is impossible until someone does it! WD45-trip loader 1947 c w/woods belly mower, 1939 B, #3 sickle mower 1944 B, 2 1948 G's. Misc other equipment that my wife calls JUNK! |
Posted By: KouryFarms
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2025 at 8:25pm
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Thank you for the great info. The creeper gear on the g is an interesting topic. I certainly wouldn’t mind owning one of each ! … 
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Posted By: Les Kerf
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2025 at 9:22pm
Amen to that! Those of us who are pushing 70 have to think about whether or not we really NEED to get on that tractor. My 14 year old grandson bounces on and off my Model C like a monkey. Ah, those were the days
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mdm1 wrote:Posted By: wade89
Date Posted: 19 Apr 2025 at 10:03pm
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I cultivated a couple acres of potatoes with a B. You can make most any type of shovel, spring tooth or finger weeder work on the factory cultivator. I even had the hiller discs from China mounted to it. Only issue I had was it bein pretty fast in 1st. Maybe shorter tires would’ve helped? If you hold out for a CA, it’ll have a 4 speed and be 1/2 mph slower in low gear. |
Posted By: KouryFarms
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2025 at 6:12am
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I’d like to try adding the newer Timor cultivating equipment to the older tractor. Appreciate having ground speeds pointed out. My farm is mostly short rows. Too fast in 1st and I’ll run out of row before I even begin. Ground speeds from the Nebraska tests: B in 1st is 2.50 mph G in 1st 2.25 mph G in special low 1.6 mph CA in 1st is 2.0 mph |
Posted By: Gary Burnett
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2025 at 6:44am
| If your rows are that short you might want to look into some of the really good walk behind garden tractors built by AC/Simplicity over the years |
Posted By: dkattau
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2025 at 7:04am
| I cultivate two rows at a time in the garden with my CA. It has enough hp that I can throttle way back to what I’m guessing is less than 1.5 mph. |
Posted By: wjohn
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2025 at 8:24am
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I'd point out that most Bs have the standard wide front end, which isn't adjustable other than being able to flip the offset of the wheel disk around on the hub. There are some out there with the optional adjustable wide front end, though. What sort of spacing between rows are you planning to cultivate? ------------- 1939 B, 1940 B, 1941 WC, 1951 WD, 1952 CA, 1956 WD-45 |
Posted By: wade89
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2025 at 8:39am
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Another consideration is any other equipment you’re using. For example, my B was used for a one row potato planter and a one row picker that both started life horse drawn. The rows were wider back then as they didn’t irrigate or fertilize and I was able to guess approximate yields and planting rates off historical U of M articles. Grew them that way as they were “close to organic” and had people lined up to sell direct out of the ground as fast as I dug them. However my green beans I use a narrow front CA with a different amalgamation of equipment. |
Posted By: Hubert (Ga)engine7
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2025 at 2:05pm
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George, first off “welcome to the Forum.” You can get lots of great information here and probably a bit of bull also. Both the B and the G are great tractors but for me the B is a lot more versatile, just not as good at cultivating. I grew up on a B and WD and still have a B (not running right now) with a few odds and ends. I’m probably not too far from you, off US129 between Athens and Jefferson.. Joe M up in Cumming is the G expert. Super great guy and very knowledgeable. If he sees your post I am sure he will chime in. ------------- Just an old country boy saved by the grace of God. |
Posted By: thendrix
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2025 at 2:21pm
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Welcome from another Georgian. I'm in Fairmont. You might also look into a tuffbilt or Thomas built as they started out. They're basically a G with hydrostatic drive. I think they're what became the Timore. I believe a Hines was mentioned earlier, it's basically the same thing. The tuffbilt maybe a little more rudimentary then the Hines or the G. I have a tuffbilt but mine is not as easy to get on and off as it could be ------------- "Farming is a business that makes a Las Vegas craps table look like a regular paycheck" Ronald Reagan |
Posted By: jvin248
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2025 at 3:20pm
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. I have a long narrow garden patch. What I've done is angle the rows like herringbone parking lot lanes. That way I can stretch individual rows out to as long as I want and still have a lot of individual rows: /////////// instead of llllllllll. Might help you with longer cultivating runs. You might tune the B down to idle super low on low gear if that base gear is too fast. . |
Posted By: KouryFarms
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2025 at 5:04pm
| A friend invited me to the Double H Farm show in Cleveland Ga this May. Maybe I’ll get lucky and see a few different models in person |
Posted By: KouryFarms
Date Posted: 20 Apr 2025 at 5:38pm
| This is a good idea, my current rows are around 50ft in length. If I clear a new area might be able to push to 100-150ft on the diagonal. |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 21 Apr 2025 at 5:32am
| My garden is 45'X110' roughly, measured it the other day. I plant the short ways. That makes it easier to move the sweetcorn from one area to another over the years. Seems to keep the rootworm under control. |
Posted By: KouryFarms
Date Posted: 22 Apr 2025 at 10:15pm
I’m using a small LS tractor. Outside wheelbase is 69 inches, 33 inches between tires. Tires leave 18inch wide track that I use as walkways. Rows are 33 inches wide, also using pto tiller of same width along with few other small implements. |