WD drawbar guide
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Topic: WD drawbar guide
Posted By: Jaybird14
Subject: WD drawbar guide
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2025 at 7:16am
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My drawbar guide has long slots in the end vs holes. First question is why the two types? Second question is will my slotted type work with the “new” wd cultivator I just picked up? Thanks! Jay
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2025 at 7:47am
| The drawbar bail ??? The slotted ends type was for snap-coupler tractors so the drawbar could be easily dropped on and off the tractor. No slots was all WD's and any WD45's without snap-coupler. |
Posted By: Jaybird14
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2025 at 8:07am
| yes it is for a snap coupler draw bar. My WD is a 51 but has a snap coupler on it. |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2025 at 9:25am
| Thousands of WD's have been converted to snap-coupler. Everyone I've ever been around had the "holes" torched out to make "slots" instead of buying a brand new slotted bail. And for those who think that all WD-45's had a snap-coupler, and it was standard equipment, you could also order it as a "delete" of the snap-coupler bell and lift arm latches. I believe it was a $25 or $30 deduct in price. I own a spring of 1957 WD-45 that never had a snap-coupler bell or lift arm latches and has a slotless drawbar bail. When I plow, I split the drawbar and then swing the bail clear to the top and re-pin it. |
Posted By: Jaybird14
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2025 at 9:53am
| do you think my cultivator will work with the snap coupler bail? |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2025 at 12:41pm
| The rear tire track scratcher ?? I don't know why it wouldn't work. The bail is the same slotted or not slotted. It's just a matter of how easy it comes off or reinstalls. The bail doesn't get removed for the rear scratcher that I remember. |
Posted By: Jaybird14
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2025 at 5:39pm
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Thanks! The reason I even question it is the cultivator manual tells me to remove the pins so the bail can raise and lower with the implement . I assume it pivots on the bail’s front holes… but I have slots .. just making sure it doesn’t fall off.
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Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 17 Apr 2025 at 6:15pm
| Well, it will fall off if you remove the pins on a slotted bail. I don't remember Dad"s attaching like that. Using the bail itself I mean. |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2025 at 7:48am
| Dads WD got converted to SC so torched bail. Ran a 2 row frt mnt cultivator with rear scratcher. Didn't the scratcher pin into bail arms? That would require bail pinned to tractor. Did we have to shorten drawbar? |
Posted By: Jaybird14
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2025 at 7:59am
| the manual doesn’t show it very good. It just says remove the pins from both ditches so the bail can pivot.??? |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2025 at 10:11am
| BUT, if you have an OLD cultivator manual, that may have been true. Not true some years later with snap-coupler system. |
Posted By: Jaybird14
Date Posted: 18 Apr 2025 at 10:48am
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my manual must be an older one. It also has the WC conversion. |
Posted By: kevin LA-CA
Date Posted: 01 May 2025 at 8:16pm
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I found a later model WD cultivator manual at the farm. It is for a snap coupler tractor. The furrowing bar as it is called mounts with a special clevis to the draw bar. It only has one lower arm. The description seems to mount the bail to the pins and remove the upper bolts. Grandpa's bar has two lower arms and no clevis. It think it was before he converted the WD to SC. He bought the WD new in 1948. Looking at it bail is allowed to swing on the top bolts, pins on extensions insert into the pin adjustment holes on the bail. A bolt then secures the extension to a hole at the bottom of the bail. In both versions a part of the drawbar system in the lower hinge.  
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Posted By: Lon(MN)
Date Posted: 02 May 2025 at 6:59am
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I have a drawbar guide that has not been modified for sale if you are interested. ------------- http://lonsallischalmers.com |
Posted By: dr p
Date Posted: 02 May 2025 at 5:12pm
| You will need to pick up a bail from a wd. I had the same issue with my wd45 that has snap coupler and a wd disc plow. |