Hauled this in this morning:
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Topic: Hauled this in this morning:
Posted By: Codger
Subject: Hauled this in this morning:
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2025 at 10:06am
Very nice running 175 diesel tractor. Internal hydraulic leak someplace. Steering is very choppy as is loader operation. Started right up at 34 degrees and owner says it's a good tractor.
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Posted By: Ed (Ont)
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2025 at 10:15am
Posted By: Ky.Allis
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2025 at 12:51pm
Never saw a 175 with a Year-A- Round cab before. Looks pretty good. Can't understand why most of these cabs were ordered with no AC.
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Posted By: DanWi
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2025 at 1:19pm
Early 1970s people were just getting AC in cars. I don't think they thought much about it in tractors. Cabs were more about keeping people warm during fall plowing and corn harvest, winter manure hauling and feeding and early spring field work. The tough old farmers were just glad to have a roof over there head for shade in summer and they weren't afraid to open the windows even if you got a little dirt in the cab. Then we realized how nice it was on hot days in summer to keep the windows closed turn on the AC and keep the dirt out. Now it's mandatory on hot days with a cab to have AC. Had the AC fail on the big square baler tractor fail last summer and with the sun shining in and the heat from the tractor and not being able to open windows on newer tractors the touch screen quit working. Finished baling that day. It was a hot bugger. Screen worked the next morning when things cooled down.
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Posted By: Oldoug
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2025 at 4:11pm
Looks like a super nice original unit.
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Posted By: Tracy Martin TN
Date Posted: 21 Mar 2025 at 7:03pm
My 175 had a Year A round cab on it. I couldn't get it off fast enough. Hard to get in and out of, noisy as hell, couldn't see good out of it. Lad Bennes bought it. Tracy
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Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2025 at 7:16am
That’s a nice original 175! Appears to be well taken care of. I run one of those loading round bales. Perkins are a great cold starting engine. Nice find
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Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2025 at 7:52am
Yes that is nice looking.
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Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2025 at 8:30am
Sounds like low on hydraulic fluid, or water in hyd oil if it is cream colored.
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Posted By: Codger
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2025 at 9:07am
tbran wrote:
Sounds like low on hydraulic fluid, or water in hyd oil if it is cream colored. |
First thing I brought up to the owner and we checked. Reservoir was full and clear oil. Going in for repairs and full routine service as due. I didn't see any oil leaks and all cylinders appeared tight.
Thanks,
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Posted By: Codger
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2025 at 9:16am
AC720Man wrote:
That’s a nice original 175! Appears to be well taken care of. I run one of those loading round bales. Perkins are a great cold starting engine. Nice find |
He purchased it new and it's his feeding tractor for cattle. The receiver hitch welded to the bucket floor allows for a bale spear to be installed and removed easily.
It's getting a full routine service while in the shop along with whatever is wrong with the hydraulic function(s) repaired.
Always in a garage being too nice to be called a "shed" when not in use.
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Posted By: JC-WI
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2025 at 3:01pm
Sounds almost like air getting into hydraulic pump... Or maybe broken or sticky relief spring. Sump screen or filter plugged? Hate to think seals shot in pump itself.
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Posted By: Codger
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2025 at 4:09pm
Definitely a cavitation issue. I don't know the hydraulics system in these tractors at all but am going to get a lesson I'm sure. If only the steering were "jerky" it would be narrowed, but the loader is also when cylinders are stroked.
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Posted By: plummerscarin
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2025 at 7:29pm
Call me morbid, but I'm really curious how that happened
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Posted By: AC720Man
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2025 at 8:21pm
Is this a purchase or are you repairing it for him?
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Posted By: DaveKamp
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2025 at 9:50pm
So... I don't know the 175's hydraulics with any significant authority, but before you dig in too deep... pull any hydraulic suction lines off, and substitute them. It may be simple case that the interior lining of the suction hose has delaminated and collapsed in, and it's being 'sucked shut'.
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Posted By: Codger
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2025 at 10:26pm
plummerscarin wrote:
Call me morbid, but I'm really curious how that happened |
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Posted By: Codger
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2025 at 10:34pm
AC720Man wrote:
Is this a purchase or are you repairing it for him? |
Not mine. I hauled it in for this hydraulics problem. I don't work for the implement dealer; only haul things requiring a CDL for pickup and delivery. They are good friends is reasoning for my involvement. I will step in and work with them when they are short on manpower and this time of year is heavy with field and tillage equipment preparation. Usually my involvement is go in and set up new mowers, but they think me a competent mechanic if need be..... I may do that to free up the young man in the mower shop that wants to be an ag mechanic. Pretty good young guy but not a lot of experience.
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Posted By: Codger
Date Posted: 22 Mar 2025 at 10:54pm
DaveKamp wrote:
So... I don't know the 175's hydraulics with any significant authority, but before you dig in too deep... pull any hydraulic suction lines off, and substitute them. It may be simple case that the interior lining of the suction hose has delaminated and collapsed in, and it's being 'sucked shut'. |
Thanks Dave;
I'll pull a flow diagram first as they have books on the series. I don't know these at all but a suction line restricting itself closed happens more often than most will believe. Sometimes when the internal NBR rubber tube is cut, or skived upon assembly, this problem doesn't rear it's ugly head till several years later also. If any of the hydraulic lines are hard, stiff, or cracked they will be arbitrarily replaced as "due".
I just built up 12 hoses for an older Ford loader tractor yesterday from age related issues. Really nice having your own hose machine and stock to pull from.....
I did notice a couple of hoses on the tractor had been replaced and did lightly converse with the owner about overall condition. I don't get the impression he will balk at repairing correctly, (whatever that entails) to have it dependable.
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Posted By: jvin248
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2025 at 1:09am
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YouTube channel Ross the Oliver man did replacements of all hydraulic hoses on that model or pretty close that had a cab. He converted rubber to hard lines on some to last longer. May be useful to skim through those few videos.
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Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2025 at 6:55am
What dealer do you help out.
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Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 23 Mar 2025 at 6:59am
jvin248 wrote:
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YouTube channel Ross the Oliver man did replacements of all hydraulic hoses on that model or pretty close that had a cab. He converted rubber to hard lines on some to last longer. May be useful to skim through those few videos.
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Be careful! You get started watching Ross and you might not leave your computer for months. All kidding aside, he has a ton of great content. I believe that was a 200 he did those lines on.
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