Snap-coupler lift latches LEFT/RIGHT
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Topic: Snap-coupler lift latches LEFT/RIGHT
Posted By: DrAllis
Subject: Snap-coupler lift latches LEFT/RIGHT
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2025 at 7:56pm
| I was out working on a friends WD-45 diesel tonite and he also has a WD-45 gasser. Both tractors had the lift arm latches on the wrong sides. The retaining setscrew/square head bolt ALWAYS goes on the outside. This makes sure the lift latches are "square" to the lifting links and makes life easier on all the components. This applies to all WD/WD45/D-14-15-17-19-190 tractors. Setscrews on the OUTSIDE !!!! |
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Posted By: plummerscarin
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2025 at 8:12pm
| Thanks for clarifying. Ive seen a number of them installed as you'd noticed and I had been wondering lately which was the correct way |
Posted By: Ed (Ont)
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2025 at 8:29pm
I just went and checked mine as I've had them on and off a couple times for repairs. They were on correctly. And yes you can see how that squares them up. Learn something every day!! 
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Posted By: EPALLIS
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2025 at 10:26pm
| I'll have to go out and check all 5 sets. As always, many thanks to the good doctor. Appreciate it! |
Posted By: allischalmerguy
Date Posted: 13 Mar 2025 at 10:44pm
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Thank you! ------------- It is great being a disciple of Jesus! 1950 WD, 1957 D17...retired in Iowa, |
Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2025 at 6:12am
| Good info Dr Allis! I'll check my D 15. Thanks!! |
Posted By: PaulB
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2025 at 7:06am
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Most latches (not all) that I've seen have threads on both sides to put the bolt on either side. ------------- If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere. Real pullers don't have speed limits. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2025 at 7:16am
| I think it was like this. the originals were 331862 and 331863, left and right, threads on one side. Then in numerical book those numbers say use 243996 which I think threads on both sides |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2025 at 8:16am
| Yes. There are some older ones that had only ONE hole, so there were lefts and rights early on. BUT regardless, people install them wrong !! Setscrew to the outside always. |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2025 at 8:40am
| Guess I've got my assignment for the day. Guess I've got 6 tractors to look at, though will probably look at more. Maybe I'll cover this in the video I'm going to shoot today? |
Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2025 at 10:39am
| My series 1 D 15 has both set screws on the outside. There are holes on the inside but they don't look threaded. Thanks |
Posted By: tbran
Date Posted: 14 Mar 2025 at 11:59am
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Story - We went to the auction of the AC plant in MKE. They found 2 tubs of snap couplers, one top, one bottom, one tub of springs, and one tub of rivets, hinge bolts. I bought one tub of the tops kind of by mistake. When checking out I went to the tubs and started taking top halves and mating with bottom halves , springs etc. Some dealers wife came running up and demanded I stop and put everything back - I told her the tops were of no use w/o bottom latches and we would split them. She was irate and called her hubby who was a dealer and he threatened to call security on me. I told him I had a better idea - he could have them all. He was clueless. SO, some where, probably in a new product some were by now melted down, are about 100 new snap coupler latches from the circa 1986 sale. I will not mention the old fellows name... a former Nauthurn dealer :-) ------------- When told "it's not the money,it's the principle", remember, it's always the money.. |
Posted By: SteveM C/IL
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2025 at 12:07am
| Mine are on wrong.... |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2025 at 8:41am
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SteveM C/IL wrote:Posted By: Dennis J OPKs
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2025 at 8:55am
| Showing my age here as well as poor memory. The early pin hitch plows vintage 1948-2/16 had a sleeve type connection which slipped over the lift arm but was a permanent part of the plow. Here's where the memory gets foggy, those sleeves had right angle type bolt which preceded the set screw and could be turned in by hand. Seems like they were on the inside but wouldn't swear to it. The only way it was wrong was if the plow was assembled wrong since it wasn't a real easy swap to get the locking bolt on the outside. An ancient plow book might reveal the intent. |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2025 at 9:19am
| Dennis, I might have a book for pin-hitch plows out in the shop, maybe. I do not have any plows that old. Have some 'hands' (have heard them called that) from implements from the pin-hitch era. |
Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2025 at 11:49am
| What's the purpose of the 1+1/4" ish hole underneath my lift latches? A pipe that something is mounted on? Thanks |
Posted By: Pat the Plumber CIL
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2025 at 1:01pm
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We had a series 3 d17 with a pipe that went through the holes . The series 1 didn't have the pipe between them. I was told it beefed up the arms and were less likely to break one. ------------- You only need to know 3 things to be a plumber;Crap rolls down hill,Hot is on the left and Don't bite your fingernails 1964 D-17 SIV 3 Pt.WF,1964 D-15 Ser II 3pt.WF ,1960 D-17 SI NF,1956 WD 45 WF. |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2025 at 3:12pm
| It was a solid shaft. I believe even the last WD-45's had that as an option as did the early D-17's when they had a 4-bottom plow hanging on the back. |
Posted By: ACinSC
Date Posted: 15 Mar 2025 at 3:52pm
| Thanks Pat and Dr Allis. I would think it would take some serious abuse to break a lift arm. Thanks again |
Posted By: IBWD MIke
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2025 at 6:03am
| I have seen bent lift arms and thought, how in the **** did you do that??? |
Posted By: DrAllis
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2025 at 6:57am
| I have too. And it always seems they were bent inward, which could be caused by a lift latch on the wrong way AND an implements lifting link frozen and not able to twist ?? I'm sure I've never seen one bent outwards. |
Posted By: Mikez
Date Posted: 16 Mar 2025 at 7:36am
| We have an early d17 and it has the bar across. My great uncle bought tractor brand new from my grandfather. That bar will raddle a little when lifting implements. When plowing you could tell when traction booster was working. |